UnDebate:Is one a number?

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Background information[edit]

We often use phrases like only, the only one, a single, and just one to describe the uniqueness of a person, place, or thing in a certain situation. One may ask,

If I took an entity, unique in its own circumstances, and removed all qualities inherent to its type of entity, and removed all qualities which its surroundings impress upon it, I would be left with a quantity; the number one, would I not?

Various scholars throughout the ages have accepted this argument, even going as far to do what is who would as it inside to be without when as far to then so. However, recent philosophers, especially linguists, have proposed that "one" is not a number, but yet another quality which we have assigned a special name to, a name which seems to imply numberhood. Furthermore, including "one" in our number system has frequently caused dilemmas in the mathematics and sciences; for example: Is the number one odd or even? Is it prime? These reasons and others bring a widely held notion into question.

Is one strictly a quantity?[edit]


Consider another thought experiment. We presume that if a descriptor is not a quantitative one, then it is surely a qualitative one. We presume that the definition of a qualitative descriptor as something which is strictly inherent to types of entities (for example retarded is an inherent quality of the type of people born with the wrong number of chromosomes). Now there exist entiti(es) Z containing a type X. X has a all-inclusive set of qualities Q. "Being the color blue" is contained in Q, as is "Being one (the only one, alone, singular, etc.)". Let us imagine another X which is green. If it is "Being the color green" then it is not "Being the color blue" so it is not an X because it does not satisfy all of Q. We may also imagine another X which satisfies all of Q, and we may even imagine that is is one. However, because there are now two X, both of them do not satisfy all of Q, but we have already established that the first X satisfied all of Q (by definition), so an X satisfying all of Q cannot exist. This is because "being one" cannot be part of Q because it is not a quality. And since it is not a quality, it must surely be a quantity.


But that thought experiment is completely nigger. A descriptor can be neither qualitative or quantitative, for example, the descriptor "Being God" is neither because God is everything; including all the other qualitative and quantitative stuff. Same idea with "Being Jesus". Jesus is everything. Also, 27 is an inherent quality of retarded people, so the definition of qualitative is false if they're trying to prove that one's a number. Also, just because you can imagine something doesn't make it real (that will be my next argument). So I don't see how one can't be a quality, nor do I see how such a fine line between qualities and quantities should be drawn. Or even can be drawn. I saw you attempt it there, but you failed. That makes you a fag.So in all honesty i lost my chain of thought there, but you know what? Chains are meant to be lost and therefore one is a chain.

Is one even a thing?[edit]


This is an awfully silly question. Everything that is used by other things is a thing; if we can say that there is one pig then one must be a thing, or else what thing would we say about the pig? If you're going to say that one isn't a thing because it is a badly-defined, unobservable concept made by people, then you might as well say that about all numbers. But that still doesn't make one not a thing, and it is a great argument for one being a number.


One is just a stupid synonym for "a" and "the". I could say "Hey, look at the pig" just, even more, easily as I could say "Hey, look at there is one pig". In fact, I doubt that anyone ever says that. Similarly, I could be in the lab making crank and I could say "I need a centiliter of hydrogen peroxide" and my partner could say back to me "Is that point oh a of a liter?" and there would be no confusion. So if one is just a synonym, then one doesn't exist by itself, it is "a" and "the" that exist, and one is just holding on. But you can't say the same thing about the other numbers, I mean, what are you going to say for the number bajillion? You can't say "There is lots of pig" and expect that to be the same as saying "There is bajillion pig". On the one hand you have something unspecific and nontechnical, while on the other you have a specific, well-defined term. Also, one is not a thing because it just isn't popular anymore. People like bigger and bigger numbers, and it is ridiculous to include this guy: with all the cool guys.

Is one compatible with the other numbers?[edit]


One is undeniably necessary for mathematics. Without it the integers would not be closed under multiplication, and the distinction between prime and composite numbers would be even less clear, not more clear. One is the identity element of all operations higher than addition, but addition is itself defined through repeated additions of the number one. One and e have a very close relationship in calculus, and statistics makes no sense without it; let alone logic. The very foundations of mathematics rely on a subconscious conception of the number one, and though we may not want to accept it, it is clearly there.


Life would be much simpler without one. Imagine going to the store and buying a nice sofa for $79.99. You pay the cashier $80, and then the cashier gives you... Two pennies back! At first he looked confused, but it's obvious. If a number is an integer, and if a number is greater than zero, and if a number is smaller or the same as every other integer greater than zero, then the number is... Two! You're certain that your horse will win the fight? You think you have a 200% chance of winning! Clearly though, that's wrong. And that's a good thing. Not having the number one challenges our ideas about certainty, truth, and precision. Nothing is like that in the real world.

Can you count to one?[edit]


Yes. 0, 1. Duh. Wait, is zero a number?!?

Hi. This is Neil Degrasse Thson. I read a book about zero called Zero: A Biography of a Dangerous Idea by Charles Seife, and I want all of you to know how smart I am. Zero actually has a long and storied history. It is the equal yet opposite of infinity, and the basis of just about every philosophy. It is a conflict that is in escapable in mathematics. Here are some interesting facts about zero. It is also just 3 numbers away from the amount of women who have accused me of sexual misconduct. Bye.


Attempting to do so will require an infinite amount of time, as to count to one, it would have to be a number. Even if one is to assume one has a place on the number line between zero and two, to count to one it would be necessary to first count to 0.5, and to count to 0.5 it is impossible to skip 0.05, which is impossible without counting to 0.005. one would eventually have to count with units of infinite amounts of zeroes, followed by a five, which is impossible as the numbers being added are so infinitesimally small that they would never reach this hypothetical "one"

has anybody ever counted 0, 1? first of all, the second character is an upside-down exclamation mark, so they really never reached one in the first place, and on top of that, this is like saying that counting to 400 is 8, 400. so many important numbers are skipped in this string, and as such what is being done cannot be considered counting


One may or may not be a number