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SIGN UPS HAVE ENDED!! And Round One has been extended by three more days due to incompetent bastards not finishing! |Si Plebius Dato' (Sir) Joe ang Giratina CUN|IC Kill | 09:10, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Annual Uncyclopedia Summer Extravaganza!

Co-hosted by Joe the Burninator and High General Aimsplode.
Competition starts on August 1, 12am ET (or 7.00 UTC), and finishes on August 16, 12pm ET (19.00UTC). Bad luck if you live on the other side of the world, especially us Aussies.

This tournament is a summer themed tournament: think cars, alcohol or vacation, girls, beaches, sunburns, parties etc... it can be any topic of any genre- or simply, you can write about anything you wish to write about, or more simply, write whatever your team wants to write, as long as it has something to do with summer (be creative even with how you write the article...creative is good). It can also be an UnNews report, or an UnPoetia article, or it can even be an UnReviews about a summer blockbuster (e.g. Jaws). Write about anything your team wishes to write, but make sure it is summer related.

Contestants participate in a Sudden Death tournament. There are six teams, with four contestants in each team and two rounds. The contest will be on for two weeks with a couple days in between rounds for judging. Teams must write TWO articles in each round. Failure to do so may result in a forfeited match depending on what mood the organizers are in.

The rounds are:

• Round 1: (Week 1) All teams write 2 articles, top three voted teams go onto the final round. (Aug 1-7)
• Juding of round one Aug 7-until the judges get around to it
• Round 2: Beings on Wednesday 17 at 00.01 UTC (02.01 UK, 03.01 Western Europe) (8pm Tuesday 16 ET new york, toronto) and lasts exactly 7 days.
• Judging: Begins Wednesday 24 at 00.01 UTC (02.01 UK, 03.01 Western Europe) (8pm Tuesday 23 Agusut ET new york, toronto) and lasts exactly 7 days.
• Awards Ceremony on August 27 (Ucapan pada tgl. Agustus 27/Los putos de mierda que ganan pueden mirar mientras que jugamos con sus putas madres)

There are three judges, and judging is score-based, with 42.83 being the highest possible score and 2.45 being the lowest possible score. The score given is at the absolute discretion and hormonal state of the judges, as well as the MC's mood, who can manipulate the score.

Score will be the combined results of each judges scores for both articles (i.e. the sum of all six results). You cannot score zero, otherwise the computer divides by zero and ends the world!

The two/three teams with the highest score go on to the final round.

Teams can discuss possible article topics but not strategy nor content.

Competition starts on August 1. Sign-ups start now! IT HAS CLOSED LAH! |Si Plebius Dato' (Sir) Joe ang Giratina CUN|IC Kill | 05:22, August 1, 2011 (UTC)

OFFICIAL JUDGING RULES

Because there is some confusion in all of this, here are the official judging rules:

• Each team gets two scores, for each of that team's articles.
• The maximum score a single article can get is 128.49 (42.83 x 3), which is all 3 judges giving a 42.83. The maximum score for the entire team (128.49 + 128.49=) is 256.98. The lowest possible score a single judge can assign to an article is 2.45, and for the whole team is (7.35 + 7.35=) 14.7, which means all judges give a 2.45 on both articles.

I am adding a score line for each of the team's two articles underneath their team, so we can add final scores there, once judging is done. DO NOT REMOVE THE SCORE LINES. →A (Ruins) 16:53, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

NOTICE

Some people have been asking me if the articles for the USE would be held captive in userspace, or in mainspace. Keep them in mainspace until they are completely finished, then redirect them to one of your team member's userpages, you decide who's.

TEAM AAAAAAA- Eliminated-Lack of articles

1. Well, team AAAAAAA makes me think of AAAAAAA, specially the letter A. This why I wanted to come into this team. See you all in hell. OMG!!! It`s Cat the Colourful, Jesus Christ!!! 06:09 14 July 2011
2. I can't wait to crush the competition with my enormous ego. --Hotadmin4u69 ^[TALK] 17:21 Jul 18 2011
3. I may be a new member, but I've been viewing Uncyclopedia since birth. I FUCKING LOVE THE LETTER A. Goodbye.--Tom is unable to exist right now, please leave a message after the beep. 22:45, July 18, 2011 (UTC)
4. I'll join this tema, although I wont be around until the very last day of the 1st round, but fuck it. -- colossal Ape (meditate) (Riot Porn) 18:42, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Article One: UnNews:Summer surprises the playing children

Judge 1:

Judge 2:

Judge 3:

TOTAL ARTICLE 1:

Article Two:

Judge 1:

Judge 2:

Judge 3:

TOTAL ARTICLE 2:

Total Score:

TEAM PUPPY GANG BANG [CLOSED]

1. I remember making that sound once. --Scofield & Dudes 08:17, July 14, 2011 (UTC)
2. ROCK AND ROLL!!! --ShabiDOO 18:46, July
3. I'm joining this team. --Lucyfer & his friend, Wlado! 14:36, July 23, 2011 (UTC)
4. *removed into here from there (team over this). Suck on that.* OMG!!! It`s Cat the Colourful, Jesus Christ!!! 10:45 16 August 2011

What the hell Cat? :D I'll let you do it, but atleast read the rules above ^^^^ and ask!!! XD →A (Ruins) 11:59, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Article One: User:Shabidoo/My_bikini_diet

Judge 1: 2.45 →A (Ruins) 02:12, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Judge 2: 25.79 it's ok but not the best. Still pretty good.---   TALK What's it like to be a heretic? 03:08, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Judge 3: 10 because that's the number I picked. -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 05:05, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

TOTAL ARTICLE 1: 38.24

Article Two:My Summer Vacation in Saudi Arabia

Judge 1: 42.83 Good job, guys. Enjoyed this one. Next time, send me a postcard! →A (Ruins) 14:11, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Judge 2: 30.01 Very Nice indeed. ---   TALK What's it like to be a heretic? 03:44, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Judge 3: 30. This one is the better one -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 05:36, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

TOTAL ARTICLE 2: 102.84

Total Score: 151.08

Team Frozen Mammoths and Magic Flamingos [CLOSED]

1. I may not be on as much during August, but I should be able to contribute enough time. Don't have a preference for a partner, yellow is just my favorite color. I do have a partner and he will be joining Team Blahblahblah shortly. Yellow is still my favorite color though. Apparently the font color for this team is actually orange while the newest team is as yellow as it gets. Damn. --Sir Oliphaunte (განხილვა)   15:33, July 14, 2011 (UTC)
2. I like Oliphaunte's style and I think our styles will mesh well. The Frozen Mammoths are born! If a 3rd one wants to join, no problem with me! Mattsnow 15:44, July 14, 2011 (UTC)
3. Two reasons: (1 Because Team Frozen Mammoths is an awesome team name. And (2 Because I don't think my writing style will mesh with Mattsnow and Oliphaunte's writing style, and I want to make it harder for everyone. Cheers! -- 05:20, July 15, 2011 (UTC)
4. Black_flamingo11. What the hell. --Black Flamingo 02:17, July 23, 2011 (UTC)

Article One: Mini-golf

Judge 1: 40. Great work. Had fun reading it ---   TALK What's it like to be a heretic? 04:34, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Judge 2: 24.60 Mine, Joe. No yours, yes mine. →A (Ruins) 12:01, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Judge 3: 42. This is a really good article. I can see it going places post-comp (assuming this ever ends). -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 03:02, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

TOTAL ARTICLE 1: 122

Article Two: Horseshoes (game)

Judge 1: 38.78 Pretty good as well. ---   TALK What's it like to be a heretic? 04:34, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Judge 2: 35. Because it is almost finished. |Si Plebius Dato' (Sir) Joe ang Giratina CUN|IC Kill | 05:01, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Judge 3: 36. Same as above, except this isn't quite finished yet. -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 03:02, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

TOTAL ARTICLE 2: 109.78

Total Score: 231.78

TEAM EVIL MUTATED CYBORG SHEEP [CLOSED]

"Resistance is Futile"

1. I'm thinking of doing a lyrics parody of Don Henley's "The Boys of Summer" with lots of eighties imagery (think Miami Vice, Ferraris, big hair, ridiculous neon colors (it seems the HTML gods have conveniently given us the colors of blue and purple), etc.). If not a lyrics parody, then just something with a "Summer in the Eighties" motif. I don't think I can pull it off without help, so any takers? We can change the team name, if you like. Leave a message on my talk page if you're interested! Oops! I've just been informed by Shabidoo that we're not supposed to talk about it beforehand. Good luck, all! -- Sir "TheSlyPony" Invariably certifiable. 21:33 July 14, 2011 (UTC)
   1. Tell you what. Your team can do the lyrics parody. Doesn't matter anyway. |Si Plebius Dato' (Sir) Joe ang Giratina CUN|IC Kill | 06:36, July 16, 2011 (UTC)
2. Purple is nothing without Lollipop. -- Lollipop - CONTRIBS - WRITINGS - SHOP - Now adopting! - 05:31, 15 July 2011
3. And as such I will make my legendary return to Uncyclopedia. Come and worship and my crumb-laden feet. += 04:30,19July,2011
4. (Please please please join!)

Article One: UnTunes:Toys of Summer (Finished!). -- Sir "TheSlyPony" Invariably certifiable. 21:13 August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Judge 1: Ok, um.....ok. 23.83 →A (Ruins) 01:54, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Judge 2: 21. Who the fuck are The Eagles? |Si Plebius Dato' (Sir) Joe ang Giratina CUN|IC Kill | 03:32, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Judge 3: 10. Forced rhymes implanted on an overused song parody topic. -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 03:06, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

TOTAL ARTICLE 1:

Article Two: UnBooks:Our Family Vacation (Also finished!) -- Sir "TheSlyPony" Invariably certifiable. 05:09 August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Judge 1: 16 it's ok, I guess---   TALK What's it like to be a heretic? 04:30, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Judge 2: 23. Plainly subtle and obvious humor at the same time. Loved the ironic photos. |Si Plebius Dato' (Sir) Joe ang Giratina CUN|IC Kill | 03:32, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Judge 3: 3. This type of article is incredibly cheap and tiresome. I hope that, in the future, people realize that they should no longer be made. Also, it was in an unreadable, fancy font for some unexplainable reason. -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 03:06, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

TOTAL ARTICLE 2:

Total Score: Nobody can be bothered to calculate it, apparently, but you're still in the race, so write some articles for the second round, please.

TEAM NFC [Eliminated, no articles-WTF]

Team NFC is comprised of rather busy people who realistically lack the time to enter contests of this nature, and therefore have No Chance of winning (or, to be honest, even completing an article). However, they're really quite decent chaps users, and they hate to see so many blank teams, so...

1. T. (talk)
2. This seems appropriate, although I'm not entirely sure what I'm signing.

1234 ~ 19:33, 18 July 2011

1. I'll join if you'll have me. And I'll also join if you won't. Also I come from England, where we don't have summer. But I googled it once, so it should all be fine. Especially as this is the team for not doing anything, which suits me down to the ground. Nameable • mumble? 19:45, July 18, 2011 (UTC)
2. --ICameHereInACloche 17:32, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Article One: Er, if no one else has written anything, then shall we use this MASTERPIECE OF MODERN LITERATURE: User:Nameable/Menu/Wafer?

Judge 1:

Judge 2:

Judge 3:

TOTAL ARTICLE 1:

Article Two:

Judge 1:

Judge 2:

Judge 3:

TOTAL ARTICLE 2:

Total Score:

Team Admin [DISQUALIFIED DUE TO VOTE RIGGING]

1. Zombiebaron
2. Dr. Skullthumper
3. Ljlego
4. Eh, I guess I'll join this team. —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 18:57, 29 July 2011

Article One: HowTo:Please your woman with a summer sausage

Judge 1: Stub. Stubbing isn't good. 5.45 →A (Ruins) 01:57, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Judge 2: 2.00 I expected better from the admins ---   TALK What's it like to be a heretic? 03:48, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Judge 3: 45 A masterpiece of brevity -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 05:37, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

TOTAL ARTICLE 1: 52.45

Article Two: UnScripts:The Summer Of All Fears

Judge 1: Stub. Stubbing isn't good. 5.45 →A (Ruins) 02:00, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Judge 2: 2.00 as I said above ---   TALK What's it like to be a heretic? 03:48, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Judge 3: 47. A marvelous exercise in blatant vote rigging. -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 05:37, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

TOTAL ARTICLE 2: 54.45

Total Score:

Judges sign up [CLOSED]

Judges sign up here:

1. I think I'll be a judge this tournament. Besides I like judging.---   TALK What's it like to be a heretic? 16:25, July 11, 2011 (UTC)
2. Okay -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 11:54, July 12, 2011 (UTC)
3. SHOW ME DA MONEY!!! →A (Ruins) 14:12, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Ideas...suggestions

See here

Contestants for Round 2

NFC is eliminated, as well as Team AAAAAAA. Who will be the third person to be eliminated? |Si Plebius Dato' (Sir) Joe ang Giratina CUN|IC Kill | 07:03, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Due to lack of interest, Team Admin is eliminated due to vote rigging |Si Plebius Dato' (Sir) Joe ang Giratina CUN|IC Kill | 01:37, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Will you please at least judge our articles? We've been waiting for quite a while now. thanks. -- 01:46, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

sorry for our laziness. I'm finishing up my part of judging as of now and is looking forward to round two---   TALK What's it like to be a heretic?|

This tournament

Has already been going on far too long. I'm setting a deadline: August 25th. If it's not finished by then, everyone wins. Or at least who's left. -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 12:19, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Um, sorry TKF, Joe and I decide the time limit & dates for this contest, not you...lol....→A (Ruins) 22:09, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

That was true back when this was supposed to be a contest, not a marathon. As it stands, this is looking to hold back the start dates of the PLS (which by all rights should have started by now) and The Article Whisperer. So I am saying as an administrator and writer for this site: this competition will end soon. By the 25th, specifically. -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 22:11, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Even better

Round 2 begins Wednesday at 00.01 UTC (01.01 uk, 02.01 west europe) (8pm tuesday ET [new york, toronto]). Seven days to make two articles. The three teams not kicked out (with scores) go on. --ShabiDOO 19:25, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for making that up, Shabi. Now, I officially officialize that statement to officially be the official rules for this contest. Thank you. →A (Ruins) 22:12, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

And I'm making it even more expedient and official by declaring that, instead of a whole 7 days, they only have three days to write the articles, to add some actual suspense and incentive to this contest, and also to hopefully get the damn thing done before September. Also I'm leaving for a week without a computer soon so whoever wants to take my judging spot, it's open now. -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 22:18, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

No no no, ignore what TKF is saying here. The whole tournament has already been concieved by variouse writers, the 7 day rule applies. The tournament will be done by the end of August anyways. You cant expect three teams to finish articles in 3 days, when half the teams didint even do 2 in 7 days. Besides, aimsplode officialy agreed with what I said, and hes the organiser TKF is a judge. --ShabiDOO 23:22, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, I'm not a judge because just above there I quit. And, no offense to the organizers, but to be called an "organizer" usually implies that there's some sort of organization going on, whereas this entire competition is plodding along indifferently, without deadlines until someone who isn't Aimsplode or JoeNumbers suggests them, and seemingly improvised in every respect. If we give a week to write and a week to judge the next round, we'll finish on exactly the 31st the earliest. This assumes that all the judges judge on time and, god forbid, there isn't a third round. -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 23:43, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Also, there's zero reason why people need seven days to write two articles. It's been proven time and again in the past that prizewinning articles can spring up in no less than half an hour, and collaborations can be put together within a day. Three days is perfectly reasonable and actually motivates contestants to get off their asses. -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 23:45, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

3 days? I normally write my articles over the span of weeks or months! I don't want to sound negative but if all contests change rule in the twink of an eye while we're right in the middle of it, I'll never participate again. The original ruling said 7 days. Mattsnow 00:24, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

I think Im going to pull out. No I will. Until its completely clear that this is a 7 day round. --ShabiDOO 00:47, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Wait, since TFK pulled out, he has nothign to do with the tournament anymore, so, 7 day format sticks. So...7 days it is. OLAY! Just have to find a new judge. Aimsplode, look for a new judge please...I guess you have 7 days which shouldnt be too difficult. --ShabiDOO 00:51, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Shabidoo, while we can't make you cooperate (well, we could ban you, but that could be a mite counter-productive), please try to see if from our point of view - this contest has already gone on for weeks at the expense of other contests which had been scheduled for around this time before this one was even considered. While new contests are welcome, some of use have been waiting for the others already, and allowing this one to continue at the same slow rate it's been going at the expense of these others really doesn't help anyone. That said, articles don't take that long to write if folks just focus, and with groups of four, they indeed should go even faster if said groups actually do them. So please, three days for this phase. Finish by the 25th. We need to move on.

1234 ~ 01:40, 17 August 2011

And Mattsnow, normally contests are entirely planned ahead of time - had this one been properly planned out in the first place, it wouldn't be changing in the middle.

1234 ~ 01:43, 17 August 2011

Since it appears, Lyth, that you are interested in this contest. By cooincidence, we are also short one judge. In other words, tag, you're it. Alzo, for compromise, time for article writing will 4 days, not three, not seven. Everyone chill out now and stop talking about it. Otay?! →A (Ruins) 01:51, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

How about proclaiming the winner of the 1st round the big winner then, Aimsplode? That would cut a lot of hassle! What do you think? Mattsnow 02:45, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Whatever you guys have to do, do it before that deadline. This had gone too long so we better wrap this up. And Mattsnow, that's not a good idea, no offense---   TALK What's it like to be a heretic?

So I guess you'll have 2 or 3 stubs to judge. You reply there really stands on a 3 day deadline? What's the date, bro? Mattsnow 07:17, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, this will be interesting... Lyrithya, I would just like to point out that my team effectively has two members instead of four: one open spot, in addition to one person who has apparently decided to sit in the corner while his dates are left looking silly on the dance floor. Not that a three-day deadline bothers me--I'll be glad to get this thing over with. But to whoever judges us, please take all this into consideration when you QVFD our stuff assess the quality of our work. ^_^ -- Sir "TheSlyPony" Invariably certifiable. 11:21 August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Lyrithya, I havent seen any forum suggesting any tournament. Unless there is a tournament planned to start in the next week, then all this talk about changing the format of the tournment is just a joke. --ShabiDOO 13:26, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Lyrithya, this text is really unfair as wel. Someone here is cutting the tournament by 4 days, when, infact he is one of the judges that took over a week to get his scores in delaying the well planned tournament in the first place amonst another organiser who was banned while he could have been organising it. Very bizzare and unfair stuff to say!!!!!! --ShabiDOO 13:40, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

No offense to TKF, but Shabidoo is right: he's the one who delayed it... Mattsnow 22:14, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Time out, everybody... As far as my team goes, Lollipop hasn't replied to my message about what to write; understandably, since all this was suddenly sprung on everyone. In lieu of this, it is very doubtful we will have anything more than a single stub in two days. Therefore, I have two possible solutions here: a) Actually calculate my team's score for the first round and call whoever has the most points the winner... or b) Continue this in a private tournament on somebody's talkpage, then just update this forum page with the final information when it is completed. That is the only way feasible way I can see to extend this. Although I can't speak for my only teammate, personally, I think we should just be done with it. -- Sir "TheSlyPony" Invariably certifiable. 23:30 August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Click Round 2 just below SlyFox.... Mattsnow 23:52, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

ROUND 2

Here --ShabiDOO 14:58, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Ive had enough of this nonsense

Everyone participating in this competition including the organisers wants it to be 7 days long (this round). If anyone participating in the competition except an admin disagrees with me please say so. If no one disagrees, lets make this second round a private competition (if any of the admins complain) and make it a week. --ShabiDOO 01:15, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

I've had enough of it too, I agree with you Shabidoo, let's go on with it and you forgot to sign! Mattsnow 01:12, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Okay...seven days :) Ill join the competition again and the other two judges can do the juding themselves :) :) :) --ShabiDOO 01:15, August 18, 2011 (UTC)