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 Replace. I have rewritten this article here. I propose to replace the mainspace version with mine. What say you? --ChiefjusticePS2 21:10, March 29, 2014 (UTC)- Replace. What we have is a past Uncyclopedian's tribute to his own editing. The proposed article is actually a fun read. Spıke Ѧ 21:31 29-Mar-14
- Haven't looked at the page, but "Chief", so delete vote registered. Aleister 23:07 29-3-14
- I got about halfway into the proposed rewrite and want to nom it for VFH. • Puppy's talk page • 12:11 am 30 Mar 2014
- Replace. Hail to the Chief :) -- Simsilikesims(♀GUN) Talk here. 05:10, March 30, 2014 (UTC)
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- Replace Sir ScottPat (converse)
   VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 09:28, March 30, 2014 (UTC)
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Deleted to make room for replacement 12:57, March 30, 2014 (UTC)
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- Delete. Full of toilet humour and derogatory sentences that aren't funny (such as first one). Sir ScottPat (converse) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 08:53, March 8, 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. Pants.
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- Delete. For the reasons stated by ScottPat. This article is plain unfunny.
 Bro. Nicholas☭ 16:09, March 17, 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. Agree with redirecting to Spreck, as that is a far superior article, but one I'd never think of searching for. • Puppy's talk page • 04:19 pm 29 Mar 2014
- Delete. Okay. Bang. Spıke Ѧ 23:54 30-Mar-14
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- I applied a little verbal Clearasil, mostly in the Intro. Spıke Ѧ 20:09 8-Mar-14
- Redirect to Spreck as it's already a patische of Acne? SIR MAC BOSWELL [†] 13:28, March 10, 2014 (UTC)
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- Delete. The only funny part was the quote. Anton (talk) 15:21, March 20, 2014 (UTC)
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 Keep. In fact, the quotation and the Intro were relatively recent vandalism and I've rolled them back. This article, in contrast to You Are Gay, at least has a funny theme: the awkwardness of, What do you say to a friend you just found out is gay? The Table of Contents is very cluttered. Spıke Ѧ 16:12 20-Mar-14- Keep. Yep - awkward conversations are funny. • Puppy's talk page • 04:25 pm 29 Mar 2014
- Keep. Sir ScottPat (converse) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 09:28, March 30, 2014 (UTC)
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- Kept 12:52, March 30, 2014 (UTC)
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- Delete. Given the recent deletion of the corresponding article, I don't see any reason to keep this. Especially since this category has one page that isn't a forum, image or userspaced article. ~Sir Frosty (Talk to me!)
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- Delete. Spıke Ѧ 23:54 18-Feb-14
- Delete. Why are we even talking about this? --Mimo&Maxus (Talk) 18:47, February 20, 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. Sir ScottPat (converse) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 21:05, February 25, 2014 (UTC)
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- It is a fine depository of the history of the controversy that such a small thing as this has caused over the years. The category has 23 pages, and puts the forums in one place for easy access and historical value. Big thumbs up keep. Aleister 3:50 19-2-14
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- Seems pretty pointless, but if Aleister needs it... Anton (talk) 10:44, February 19, 2014 (UTC)
- It's a relic page. Perhaps it and others like it can be locked away if someone really wants to read it in about 10 years time. --RomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 22:33, February 19, 2014 (UTC)
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- Delete. A short Russian vodka and nuclear meme article that delivers no humour. Sir ScottPat (talk) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 18:07, February 16, 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. Includes nonsense statistics, a section on the goofy concept the author just created, and other goofiness that is supposed to look funny although the reader won't know why. Bonus: Incorrect apostrophe character. Spıke Ѧ 18:15 16-Feb-14
- Delete. Poor idea poorly executed. There's seemingly no structure to the entire article which seems to bounce around like a blind flea not knowing where to go. Not enough content to worry about saving it. SIR MAC BOSWELL [†] 13:19, March 4, 2014 (UTC)
- Delete.--RomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 22:46, March 4, 2014 (UTC)
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- I am thinking about voting keep, because the first sentence makes me smile. However...the first sentence is the only good bit. I'll decide later. KickAssAndGiggle (talk) 13:34, February 19, 2014 (UTC)
- The first sentence is typical of any unoriginal article written on a country near Russia (or Russia itself). When you've gotten over the hilarity that Russians drink vodka and their politics is a bit corrupt after a few of these article you begin to realise it is tiresome, repetitive and unoriginal. Please do poke jokes at Russian drinking habits and politics but make it original. Sir ScottPat (converse) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 14:52, February 19, 2014 (UTC)
- The first sentence has aspects of a list done well: each item absurd in a different way and finally collapsing on itself. But it also has aspects of an article done badly: Tons of digressions, as though everyone in the classroom wanted to be the one writing the first thing. Giggle is right that, by the second sentence, we see that the charm is merely inability to write in English. Spıke Ѧ 15:07 19-Feb-14
- On reflection, I will abstain on this one, and let others decide its fate. KickAssAndGiggle (talk) 19:08, February 19, 2014 (UTC)
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- Delete. I gather there is some kind of pun here. Maybe the random things are spelling a word? Maybe it's just meant to be random? Either way it hasn't hit me and if others feel the same way (cos I might just be stupid) then I think the reader's consideration has been left out of this stub. Sir ScottPat (talk) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 18:16, February 16, 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. The trick is, you have to read the source code to understand the joke. Isn't that precious? Spıke Ѧ 18:20 16-Feb-14
- Delete.Lame. To see how this could have been done, I use this as an example: Fifty Shades of Grey. --RomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 21:38, February 18, 2014 (UTC)
- Delete.For me, while it may not "harm" the wiki, it has no real merit. KickAssAndGiggle (talk) 22:37, February 18, 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. Surely pretentiousness has no home here. What a load of cobblers, get rid. SIR MAC BOSWELL [†] 13:22, March 4, 2014 (UTC)
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- Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Hmmmm. Anyway, back to the nom. This page is one of the first play-on-words using symbols on uncy (read the talk page for an interesting conversation between the founder of unyc and some of the first members). It is very clever, and I saw it a couple of years ago and both liked it and was impressed. Keeping it does nothing to harm the wiki, which should be a consideration in these noms. Thanks. Aleister 13:50 18-2-14
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- I am not sure about this one. You don't absolutely have to read the code to understand the joke but without reading it, it is extremely difficult to get it. The random things are actually a half-encrypted message ("Corrupted absolutely") and this leads to the only joke the article has - that "absolute power corrupts absolutely". Do you think the pun will gain from being more obvious? Anton (talk) 18:55, February 17, 2014 (UTC)
- No, you don't have to absolutely read the source code. But the page is like a syllogism where the page title gives one premise, and the content gives the conclusion, provided the reader supplies the other premise. "Too clever by half." Spıke Ѧ 19:13 17-Feb-14
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- Delete. Readers wondering whether we have an article on Canadian atheism whose punch line is the Canadian-accent pun "Ehtheism" are in luck. For the rest of us, it's an overlong caricature, whose only photo is stolen humor from the Mackenzie brothers, comedians who were in the business of doing that exact thing. Spıke Ѧ 23:54 24-Feb-14
- Delete. Sir ScottPat (converse) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 21:03, February 25, 2014 (UTC)
- Pfft • Puppy's talk page • 12:49 pm 05 Mar 2014
- Delete. Laboured or is that labored? --RomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 13:23, March 5, 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. Confused ramblings with no direction. SIR MAC BOSWELL [†] 13:38, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
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- I think it's just bored Romartus my dear boy, or at least I was. I think the la is supposed to be silent. SIR MAC BOSWELL [†] 13:38, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
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- Delete. Barely constitutes as an article. Listcruft and advertisment to War of Colonial Aggression with a peculiar statement about Allah in the middle. If users are worried about the deletion of an article on such an important event we do still have Declaration of Gin-Dependence or Declaration of Independance. Sir ScottPat (converse) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 15:24, March 1, 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. Randumbo, then lists. Spıke Ѧ 15:48 1-Mar-14
- Delete. Yeuks! --RomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 22:49, March 4, 2014 (UTC)
 WTF? • Puppy's talk page • 12:55 pm 05 Mar 2014- Delete. With a bit more care and thought and planning, this could have been okay. I quite like the absurd content but as Sir Scott says, it's barely an article, more like the jottings of an idea that belongs in a note pad. SIR MAC BOSWELL [†] 13:29, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
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Delete. In which an editor explains his own joke (the trite one of imitating his subject whether or not he was able to say anything funny about it), pats himself on the back for having done so, and berates the reader. Anton199 today removed one use of it; I will gladly remove the other 30. 18:51 6-Mar-14 Withdrawn. Anton deleted the self-congratulation and I removed the "berating." Spıke Ѧ 23:39 6-Mar-14
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- Keep. This template can work if used as a postscript. While I wouldn't use it for 50 shades of grey, it actually fits on An inquiry into…. It wouldn't work at the start of an article, as it would destroy the joke. • Puppy's talk page • 07:39 pm 06 Mar 2014
- Per Puppy and Spike. Anton (talk) 09:05, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
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- Sorry, I promised to vote and didn't. I agree with everything Spike said but the last part is very funny. I also removed the first phrase - "This article is funny", which was the worst one. Anton (talk) 19:08, March 6, 2014 (UTC)
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- Delete. Why, oh why. SIR MAC BOSWELL [†] 12:43, March 12, 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. I was content to delegate to Anton199, who has been organizing these as either subpages of a single article or nominations here, until reading how many words it took to explain the humor of an article with so few words. That is not how I interpreted the article, but as My Sojourn plus Anal Rape Humor. The question is between maintaining a museum and a website possibly with a future. Spıke Ѧ 15:16 12-Mar-14
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- Mordillo's sojourn page is a very astute commentary. I really love the See also, which says much in one title. I reverted it back to the original version. Aleister 14:38 12-3-14
- It is hard to understand the joke if you don't know how My sojourn pages are constructed and what that Dune book is (I didn't know before Aleister's comment), but it can still be funny (see what I wrote here: User_talk:Anton199#My_sojourn)! You can also check out Category:My sojourn and UnBooks:My sojourn to see how these pages work! Anton (talk) 20:19, March 12, 2014 (UTC)
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- I shall explain the joke, or at least how I interpret it. Brian Herbert, the elder son of Frank, is writing these crappy sequels to his father's classic series (and he needs another credited writer to do it). Feyd is the second son of the leader, and wants to take over the throne. Frank Herbert had more than one child, although his second son died of aids 21 years ago. See the See also for further explanation. This is a very good satire if few words and in the form of our classic Sojourn series. I must now go see if my Spice has arrived. Aleister 14:48 12-3-14
- Dear voters, if I have your permission, I will move this page to UnBooks:My sojourn/Chapter 11. Anton (talk) 20:21, March 12, 2014 (UTC)
- I still don't get the need for a "book". The category surficed, and is featured. I looked at Chapter 1 of your book, and you made wholesale changes in the original article. It's not even the page anymore, but something different and broken with the format. Did you continue editing all the pages you've put in the "book"? And the original MS article is no longer listed in the category, which was featured because of it. Very Confused in Crimea, Aleister 21:07 12-3-14
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Delete. Virtually unchanged since 2005. An idea as dumb as Russian Reversal, involving murder, and followed by lists. The saddest thing is if the Thai Uncyclopedia article in the Sidebar is an imitation. Spıke Ѧ 15:27 12-Mar-14
- Delete. Tedious, empty, boring, bitter and largely pointless article. SIR MAC BOSWELL [†] 12:58, March 12, 2014 (UTC)
Delete. Vandalism. Anton (talk) 19:24, March 13, 2014 (UTC)
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- Keep (formerly Delete). Saved by Burritoqueen. Spıke Ѧ 11:33 14-Mar-14
- Keep. --Mimo&Maxus (Talk) 12:31, March 14, 2014 (UTC)
- Keep. Anton (talk) 10:59, March 15, 2014 (UTC)
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- I restarted the clock after putting the VFD tag on page, so don't worry. Anton (talk) 19:25, March 13, 2014 (UTC)
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- Not an actual featured article, even though it is protected, so I presume it can be deleted. Seriously, what is this? Anton (talk) 22:02, March 8, 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. Some policies need reviewing, especially if it protects Listopedia. SIR MAC BOSWELL [†] 13:19, March 10, 2014 (UTC)
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- It is a subpage of an article featured in 2005, so I believe that our policy is not to delete it. Nevertheless, it is horribly tedious. Spıke Ѧ 22:15 8-Mar-14
- But this means that we can write anything, as long as it is on a subpage of a featured article. In addition, that one was not written by the Two cows' author. And also there are dozens of subpages to that particular article, many of which, I presume, are not great. Does this mean they are not going to be touched? Anton (talk) 22:29, March 8, 2014 (UTC)
- You have two cows Aleister 1:39 9=3=14
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- Delete. The worst article I have seen in a last few months. Anton (talk) 08:30, March 10, 2014 (UTC)
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- Keep. Clearly not worse than World War II (video game), nominated above. It was needlessly graphic (now mostly fixed), but this indelicate subject can be a riot if described delicately. Spıke Ѧ 08:57 10-Mar-14
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- I agree Spike, this article could have a future but needs development. It meanders around recycling the same gag over and over again. Not enough ideas. SIR MAC BOSWELL [†] 13:04, March 10, 2014 (UTC)
- Developing a single joke to small-article-length is not fatal but the mark of an article that has a (single) comedy strategy. This article's strategy is the Kleenex as a masturbation aid, and it does pursue several angles (or meanderings, if you like): Wikipedia-based history, competition for the tissue box, and increased need in the web-porn era. That is simply not doing a single thing over and over again; even the euphemisms vary pleasingly. Spıke Ѧ 22:32 10-Mar-14
- I think it should be deleted, but I want to see how the debate goes. --Sm8900 (talk) 12:33, March 14, 2014 (UTC)
- Well, the debate has gone nowhere in five days, with a total of two voters neatly split down the middle, and so the ballot is closed. Spıke Ѧ 00:47 16-Mar-14
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- Delete. Trade to YuckyDoodyPedia for future draft picks. Spıke Ѧ 10:56 12-Mar-14
- I'll give SPIKE this piece of shit (ahhh, wanting to say that for months)(hahahahahahaha huh?). It is quite a bad presentation of the genre. Aleister 14:40 12-3-14
- Delete. Ah, terrible! Anton (talk) 19:27, March 13, 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. Shyte.--RomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 23:55, March 17, 2014 (UTC)
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- Delete. A sensationally dull imageless article about a sensationally dull subculture which only sensationally dull people adhere to. The entire idea is contradictory and it seems the writer hasn't even recognised the irony. SIR MAC BOSWELL [†] 16:00, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. Despite the change, still terrible. Made-up superhero. Sir ScottPat (converse) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 07:19, March 8, 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. I will "second that emotion." Spıke Ѧ 00:34 16-Mar-14
- Delete. Boring! The article in itself is completely dull and full of stereotypes not funny anymore. Also, who cares about making fun of emos these days? Bro. Nicholas☭ 13:21, March 18, 2014 (UTC)
- Burn with extreme heat--RomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 23:43, March 19, 2014 (UTC)
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better unvandalized version in the history. {{VFD}} applied, count reset. Spıke Ѧ 16:52 7-Mar-14
- Reset counter again, the VFD template didn't get added properly. Bro. Nicholas☭ 15:27, March 17, 2014 (UTC)
- Oh, man! I put on the {{VFD}}, then subbed in the better version from the history — undoing my first change, which I continued to claim to have done in the Summary. Cheers to the new Poopsmith! Spıke Ѧ 15:34 17-Mar-14
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- Nominate and abstain. This is the listiest of the several articles I think are attempts to catalog offsite humor rather than write original humor — in this case, to document the gallows humor of servicepeople in the U.S. Air Force — in other cases, on foreign-language phrases and swears. Voters: Do you believe this is what we are here for? Spıke Ѧ 17:07 7-Mar-14
- Delete. A normal article would look a lot better than this. Anton (talk) 21:56, March 8, 2014 (UTC)
 Obliterate. Too listy (duuh) and absolutely humorless! I mean, it's literally an article on Air Force Slang but one that you'd expect to find on Wikipedia. --Mimo&Maxus (Talk) 16:59, March 10, 2014 (UTC)
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- I don't think we should AGM this puppy. Aleister 20:21 8-3-14
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- Unless someone could format the article to make it encyclopedic looking and potentially a lot more funny I would vote delete. I don't want to discriminate against a style of humour (military humour) by voting delete because only some will understand it. We, as a website, do niche humour so let's not disappoint half of the USAAF by removing the article. Sir ScottPat (converse) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 07:23, March 8, 2014 (UTC)
- Clearly a lot of effort gone into this, but then this isn't Listopedia. Can it dwell elsewhere on the site? SIR MAC BOSWELL [†] 13:08, March 10, 2014 (UTC)
- The problem is independent of the namespace in which we put it. Spıke Ѧ 00:44 16-Mar-14
- One for RAF Packington? --RomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 13:15, March 12, 2014 (UTC)
- I think the only thing more unfocused than a list of humor trends inside the US Air Force would be a list of trends inside anyone's Air Force. Spıke Ѧ 13:31 12-Mar-14
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- Time to carry out the trash. This page is well hated, and gives Wikia the baddest name in the business. St. Patrick came to me in a dream, and after offering me a pint, said "Heal uncyclopedia and honor the Prophet." Thanks St. Pat! Aleister 10:45 St. Patrick's own day 17-3-14
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- Is nominator kidding? The ridicule of Muhammad, centering around absurd variations to "(pbuh)," is clearly playful, the page looks fine, and this article will not damage our reputation. Unbold the photo captions and no one will know you are one of the authors. Spıke Ѧ 11:32 17-Mar-14
- My dishonorable editing of the page occurred when I was new here, and uninformed of the ways of the satirical world. Since then St. Patrick has shown me the light (and a pint). Aleister 11:43 17-3-14
- Nothing wrong with it I don't see the issue. Uncyclopedia is pure satire, and this pretty much fits the bill. I don't see why it would give Uncyclopedia a bad name. Trust me, I have read a lot of articles here before registering, and this one is a good enough one. Nick123 (talk) 12:41, March 17, 2014 (UTC)
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- {{VFD}} applied and clock reset. Spıke Ѧ 14:51 17-Mar-14
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Delete. Terrible, not funny and lacks pictures. Possible chance for a re-write. Sir ScottPat (converse) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 08:40, March 8, 2014 (UTC) Delete. Only half-way to good humour. Anton (talk) 14:10, March 20, 2014 (UTC) Delete. Given the likely audience for an article named "Accountant", one would hope that the author would know something about accounting, or have a comedy strategy other than, "They are Satanic monsters." Or if he did not, he would simply write yet another article about George W. Bush. 20:13 8-Mar-14 Rescinded. Save possibly underway. Simsie possibly could help. Spıke Ѧ 23:55 20-Mar-14
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- Keep. Now keepable. Simsie should still visit it. Spıke Ѧ 18:01 21-Mar-14
- Keep. (Formerly DELETE) Sir ScottPat (converse) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 09:38, March 22, 2014 (UTC)
- Keep. Anton (talk) 15:37, March 22, 2014 (UTC)
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- Intro still does not provoke a laugh. Just reads as randomn writing. Also this Webster person needs to be explained. Sir ScottPat (converse) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 09:38, March 22, 2014 (UTC)
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- Delete. Fandom for a videogame. I don't find it funny but if it is then it might need a title re-location to something more appropriate. Sir ScottPat (converse) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 08:43, March 8, 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. Wow! Anton (talk) 14:17, March 20, 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. Who is Meglio/Meglian/Megliore? Vanity/Cyberbullying? Redirect to Accountant. Spıke Ѧ 18:04 21-Mar-14
- Delete. Author tries to merge accounting with an MMORPG, and the result is this epic fail, with a few accounting terms and accounting job positions included in the text of this made up role playing computer game. One gets the impression the author of this article knew little to nothing about actual accounting, but perhaps too much about online computer games. Also, some images are broken. -- Simsilikesims(♀GUN) Talk here. 06:59, March 23, 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. Let this article be accountable to recycle bin. --RomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 22:06, March 23, 2014 (UTC)
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- Delete. Bad. No images. Almost entirely made of lists of bad quality. Anton (talk) 14:54, March 22, 2014 (UTC)
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- Keep. Dilligafhahaha hasn't been back in; I've made the article keepable (subject to the addition of illustrations). Spıke Ѧ 00:36 26-Mar-14
- Keep. --Mimo&Maxus (Talk) 12:45, March 26, 2014 (UTC)
- Keep. --ChiefjusticePS2 13:12, March 26, 2014 (UTC)
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- New user Dilligafhahaha in fact was starting to add an image, but I told him on his talk page that it seemed to me that the cartoon was stolen humor. He also added occupational humor, under the wrong section head, attracting nominator's attention. A better option is to see if he will take ownership of the article. If not, or if he doesn't return, I'll vote Delete. as the article is indeed too listy and unfunny. Spıke Ѧ 15:00 22-Mar-14
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Delete. On the site since 2006. Someone else doesn't realize this is a humor wiki. Spıke Ѧ 22:29 27-Mar-14 Retracted Spıke Ѧ 18:29 29-Mar-14 Delete. Per nom. Alpalwriter (talk) 22:35, March 27, 2014 (UTC) Retracted Alpalwriter (talk) 21:49, March 29, 2014 (UTC)
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- Looking at //uncyclopedia.com/w/index.php?title=Anu_Malik&oldid=5268279... not sure. • Puppy's talk page • 04:32 pm 29 Mar 2014
- Point well-taken; there was a better version in the history that I should have looked for. Spıke Ѧ 18:29 29-Mar-14
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