Forum talk:Get George Bush arrested, NOW!

Attention the following is the belief of an ignorant, unpatriotic, brainwashed dumocrat. Please remember that he has no real sense of history and obviously no morals or values.

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Even Bush deserves a fair trial and to be innocent until proven guilty. Being retarded, when last I checked, was not a crime. Also we had other Presidents who did things even worse than Bush is accused of doing. Anyone remember the Japanese-American concentration camps of FDR? Anyone remember Truman dropping atomic bombs on Japan, and then invading Korea later with a "Kill them all" attitude? Anyone remember LBJ and Vietnam and police beating up war protestors and throwing them in jail and other mistakes made with the Vietnam conflict? Neither FDR, Turman, or even LBJ got arrested or impeached for their actions and behaviors. At best Bush is accused of the possibility of abusing his powers, but there is nothing but hearsay and opinion, and no facts or evidence have been presented yet. Was Bill Clinton impeached for his warentless wiretaps? No, he was impeached for lying under oath for his affair with Monica Lewinsky. At best, give Bush his fair trial and then see how things go from there. Don't whine or bitch if Bush is found innocent, or wins his appeal like Clinton did. --Lt. Sir Orion Blastar (talk) 02:54, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Nobody cares -- Kip > Talk • Works • •

I fully encourage you to have your own opinion sir, but George Bush was wiretapping. That is a crime and George Bush deserves to pay the price. --Sir Manforman 12:06, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

None of the major players will ever see a jail. One or two bit players may eventually be found guilty of something, but they'll never see jail, either. Reality has the unfortunate tendency of sucking. That's what my Magic 8 ball said. It's magic. Also, it's answers are awfully long for a friggin 8 ball. It's cursed, probably. That would explain why it's stealing my soul. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 12:27, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Just because other presidents have gotten away with shit in the past doesn't mean Bush should be able to get away with shit in the present. --THE 12:55, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

That W & Company shouldn't be able to get away with their many corruptions, scandals and lavish musical numbers doesn't mean that they won't. Especially the musical numbers. Rumsfeld butchered Oklahoma, IMO. Unless Cheney is reading this, in which case I agree wholeheartedly with his perfectly rational and well-planned terms in office. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 13:06, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Article 1, Section 9 of the US Constitution says otherwise. Warrants can be suspended when there is a threat to public safety. FDR, Truman, and LBJ used the same section to justify their warrantless actions, and even Bill Clinton did warantless wiretappings using the same section of the US Constitution. Heck the FBI and Police use probable cause to avoid warrants, the Patriot Act amended the Constitution and gave probable cause for wiretapping. BTW they tap all calls to known terrorist overseas phone numbers, so unless you happen to call Osama bin Laden and his friends, chances are they aren't listening in on you. Just because you happen to think it is a crime doesn't make it so when the Constitution allows it in the first place. Read up on Constitutional law sometime, or better yet read the Constitution and cite the parts Bush violated and provide the evidence and documents stating he violated it. So far I haven't seen anything but hearsay and opinions. --Lt. Sir Orion Blastar (talk) 01:55, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

The first amendment states there is "Freedom of Speech." George Bush violated this when he tried to pass legistlation to prevent flag burning. Also, he never had permission to wiretap and that is crime. Although past Presidents have got away with this, we won't allow Bush to get away this, remember, "nobody, not even the President, is above the law." He must pay the price for this.--Sir Manforman 13:27, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Seriously, the whole concept is a joke. Do you seriously think 25 signatures will get him arrested? No. I was watching the news a couple nights ago and I saw that over 80 towns/cities passed legistlation to get George Bush impeached and there was 1,000,000 signed petitions to get George Bush impeached, and still Bush is in office. There would have to be legistlation in Congress to impeach Bush. It is simply a joke like Uncyclopedia articles are and I hope you play along. --Sir Manforman 14:28, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

A joke? On Unclopedia? The heck, you say! Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 19:00, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

A joke? But ineffective citizen protests and false democracy are the norm in the U.S. --The Acceptable  Cainad  (Fnord) 19:13, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

It's a joke? Damn! I thought this list was getting e-mailed to congress! /me storms off to Canada in a rage. --THE 20:23, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Actaully, the more I think about it, maybe we should send this to congress. I never thought about it at the time, but now that THE suggested it, we should. Once I get over 1,000 signatures, I'll email it to congress. I was just trying to stop Orion Blaster's flamewars.--Sir Manforman 20:58, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

In order to impeach Bush, you need evidence and documents linking him to violating the Constitution and his oath of office. Without that, even if the Democrats do control Congress, you cannot start the impeachment process. It is like arresting a random man off of the street and charging him with rape because he happens to have a dick and could use it to rape someone. Any judge would throw that case out of court. It is like accusing kids of being mass murderers because they play Counterstrike. I mean I guess this whole thing is a joke, because it has no legal legs to stand on. In that case, it is fricking hilarious to see so many arm-chair experts make total and complete fools out of themselves by signing such a petition. You might as well sign a petition to bring Elvis Presley back to life or reunite the Beatles, even that has a better chance of happening than this petition. --Lt. Sir Orion Blastar (talk) 02:03, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Your ideas make no sense, whatsoever. We can't bring Elvis back to life, how can the Beatles reunite? 2 are dead. This has a much stronger chance of winning then those 2 silly ideas.--Sir Manforman 13:29, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Seriously, Nobody cares. What are you, an attorney? Why... would an attorney be at Uncyclopedia and not Wikipedia for so called "smart" people. We don't care and neither should you. All it takes is a enough signatures, and BOOM, he's in jail. The Constitution doesn't apply here. --Sir Manforman 13:21, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

BOOM? I see it more as a Shazaam!. Maybe Krih-zap!. Also, "The Constitution doesn't apply here." is his catchphrase (though he said it more like "I'm, uh, movin' ahead executively to un-constitutionalize this...<lengthy pause>...9/11! These tourists are tryin' to kill and murderize our children! They are hatin' everything that we are fer, like dimocricy, freedehm, and dimocricy."). He's copywritten it. You owe him a dollar. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 13:37, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

No I dont, I own the rights to that quote.--Sir Manforman 13:41, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

So are you saying everyone deserves a fair trial Orion Blastar? That people shouldn't be arrested without a fair trial just because they might do something? It's Bush who apparently believes that the instant someone is declared a terrorist suspect they lose all their basic rights. I don't think I made a complete fool of myself by signing that petition, I just expressed my opinion. I think it's you who made a fool of yourself by loudly declaring that Bush has done nothing wrong whatsoever, and believing he should be impeached is the equivalent of trying to resurrect Elvis. Bush certainly deserves a fair trial, but so do all the "terrorist" detainees, most of whom have never faced any charges at all. I think we realize that a petition with a bunch of names like "THE" and "Kip the Dip" probably won't make a huge difference, but we'll all feel better having screamed, and shown our contempt for the man who has screwed our country up this much. --THE 19:43, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree with THE, it is not a waste of time doing this, it is to express our opinions on this awful President. Even if George Bush doesn't get arrested, I'd at least like his reaction from this.--Sir Manforman 21:52, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Do you people honestly think some barely famous parody website can get the president arrested? I'll still leave my name on the list, but I know this won't work. There's never been a petition that actually worked, maybe made people aware, but not directly worked. Still, I believe he should be impeached for 9/11 and killing innocent people in Iraq. Arresting him won't win the war, but maybe, just maybe, somebody more responsible would take over. --Narf, the Wonder Puppy 2:59. 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Provided you can show that Bush gave executive orders to kill innocents in Iraq, and planned 911, which have not been presented yet. Like I said all I saw was hearsay and opinions pretending to be facts and evidence. I used to work for lawyers, I got bit by one, they are like werewolves. Wikipedia often takes hearsay and opinion and confuses them for facts as well. Every terrorist suspect has evidence against them, and are being held as prisoners of war, and a few thousand of them had trials by a military tribunal and were let go from Gitmo, some others were found guilty. Of course just send them to Federal Prison to await a criminal trial where Big Bubba and Thunderdick can take turns sodomizing them because they had friends and relatives killed in 911, Iraq, or Afghanistan. Nice one there. Maybe if they are lucky someone will shiv them. I don't think that this or any other petition will get Bush arrested, because nobody has any evidence to start the impeachment trials. If they did, Nancy Peloski would have started them by now and she hasn't. If you really want to know who screwed up this country, look in the mirror. US Citizens are spoiled brats who don't know how good they got it. I lived in Thailand for a month as a Thai person, I know how third world nations are and what they do without. Try living on $100 a month, that is the average Thai salary. Try a Welfare system that pays $15 a month. Minimum Wage was just increased, and the socialized healthcare insurance bill is right around the corner. Thai people don't even have healthcare insurance. Look at other third world nations out there and see just how luck you were to be born in the USA. Visit Mexico, if you were born there, you'd want to illegally live in the USA as well. So far nobody here has cited one fact, one document, or anything to show Bush did anything wrong. You have the opinion that he did, but no credible evidence or fact that would hold up in a court of law. --Lt. Sir Orion Blastar (talk) 22:09, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh God. I was hoping the two of us wouldn't plunge into a flamewar, orion blastar. But screw my inhibitions. First of all, I don't see how criticizing Bush makes me a spoiled American brat. But whatever. As for evidence, how about the Bush administration's guarantees that Iraq contained nuclear weapons? How about after that, when Bush loudly proclaimed that Saddam had connections to Al-Quaeda, but that turned out to be bullshit as well? What about hurricane katrina, and Bush recieving a warning about two weeks before about it, then flatly denying that he'd been warned after the disaster? I never said Bush planned 9/11, though he did recieve a file before the attacks warning that terrorists planned to use planes to attack the country, a report which he ignored, and the contents of which still haven't been fully disclosed. Oh, but sure, it's all the citizens fault! Yes, the citizens who voted more for Al Gore in the 2000 election, and the citizens who for the most part despise Bush now! What about the fact that under the Patriot act, it was legal to search someone's house without informing them? Isn't that a violation of some document or other? Nancy Pelosi hasn't started impeachment trials because most Democrats are pansies who can't stand up to people, as shown by the depressing lack of any progress whatsoever in the months since they took over. And as for what you said before about wanting to illegally live in the US, have I said one word against immigrants? Where did that come from? *pant pant pant* --THE 22:20, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

You're correct THE. I am hoping that the discussion will end very soon as I am getting sick of this discussion, Orion Blaster must stop flamewarring. But to comment, Al Gore won the Popular Vote by over 500,000, that is a lot of votes. But the electoral college is making us look like Britian. We have the right to get our voices heard because we're Americans, and so does Orion Blaster. But Orion Blaster can't attack us for our believes.--Sir Manforman 22:30, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Everyone else said Iraq had WMDs, and I seem to recall that even Democrats like Hillary Clinton said Iraq had WMDs and voted for the bill to invade Iraq. It was due to intelligence errors. The Department of Energy had goofed, they had a meeting of 12 government employees on looking over the intelligence on Iraq. One said that the pipes Saddam bought could not be used for enriching uranium, and the other eleven disagreed and voted not to put those comments on the report. Bush does not have a background in nuclear physics, so he couldn't tell the difference between one set of pipes or the other. Everything Bush sees is screened by Dick Cheney, and some of it is rejected. These are mistakes, not crimes, they were not intentional. Most Americans are spoiled brats who blame the government for all of their problems, usually they cannot live within their means because they are too materialistic and spend more on junk they don't really need than income they make. Then when the bill collectors call and take some of their stuff away, instead of blaming themselves for their own lack of responsibility and bad behaviors and actions, they blame the government instead. That is what is ruining America, and just now it is starting to effect the stock market. Immigrants, legal or illegal, know how to live within their means, even if they earn below minimum wage salaries. That is why I brought them up. You have a right to your opinions, but I also have a right to disagree with those opinions and tell you why I think they are wrong, as well as quote the law and constitution to back myself up. Next you will tell me you are right because everyone else here agrees with you. Well most Americans used to believe that slavery was right, and we know now that they were wrong. All I can say is that the things you keep accusing Bush of doing, I see the majority here doing. They want to arrest Bush without a trial, without evidence, and have already found him guilty in a court of public opinion or a kangaroo court. Give Bush an impeachment trial, as long as it is fair and follows the law is all I have to say. Not this lynch mob you've created. Does the word hypocrites mean anything to you people? --Lt. Sir Orion Blastar (talk) 02:13, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

I never said anything about arresting him without trial. I said everyone deserves a fair trial. If Bush had given the U.N. sufficient time to properly search for nuclear weapons, we wouldn't have ended up in this war. I'm pretty sure what's happened to this country in recent years is the government's fault--who else do I blame? A shoe? The government is what runs our nation. I can't quite figure out your philosophy here, the people in America are all arrogant, stupid idiots...so does the government contain America's only smart people? It seems that you think the government is completely blameless here, you'd rather call the people arrogant assholes for questioning it, as the constitution says they have a right to. So the people are stupid, and the government is innocent and blameless? It's all the people's fault? If a bus driver crashes a bus, you don't blame the passengers! Democrats said Iraq had WMD's because they believed what Bush had said. Silly them. also, as for what you said before about detainees all having evidence against them, what, did they go on their phones that they know can be wiretapped and say "we're terrorists"? Or did they go to a library where records can be checked under the PATRIOT act and buy "how to plan a terrorist attack"? Even if the powers granted under the act aren't being abused now, think how they could be abused in the future. History shows that this kind of power in the hands of the government can be abused quite easily, like it was during the Vietnam War to spy on countless opponents of the war. But again, I never said Bush should be arrested without a fair trial. But I think impeachment charges should be brought against him anyway, then the court of law can decide. They might have to bring a jury in from another planet though, cuz it's pretty tough to find unbiased people here on Earth :/ --THE 17:41, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh yeah, this flamewar is supposed to be over, isn't it? Okay. Peace. --THE 17:47, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

As you said Orion Blaster, think about all the people living in third world countries. What on this name of earth is George Bush doing to help people in 3rd world countries... nothing. --Sir Manforman 22:24, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Actually Bush is giving out foreign aid, and forgiving loans. Bush has given Thailand billions to build its southern region back up since 2005 when the Tsunami hit. You'd know that if you actually studied foreign policy and US law and the US government as I have. Over 120 billion has been spent to build Iraq back up as well. --Lt. Sir Orion Blastar (talk) 02:13, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry for calling you flamewarring Orion, I just thought you were over the top when you kept on replying to the comments. Yes, I encoruage you to have your own opinion, but what about all the people in Darfur that haven't been helped yet??? Also, this is not to be serious or anything like that, I just did this for fun, and I did not think and I still do not think that George Bush will get arrested. I did this, 1, to see how many sigs I could get, and 2, to have fun. You should not take this personally. He won't go to jail. --Sir Manforman 12:18, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Mwell, an argument was inevitable, and I figured I'd end up crossing political paths with you someday Orion Blastar. Might I point out that there are many people other than you who have also studied US law, US government, and foreign policy, and many of them happen not to like Bush? and yes, maybe he won't be impeached for all this crazy stuff he's done, but I still think that's due to weak-ass democrats rather than no evidence. But whatever. Opinions, opinions. This is a comedy site! Somebody tell a joke! --THE 17:57, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

WHAT the Fuck is this against arresting Bush!!! Well Frikin guess what!! I FRIKING AGREEE!!!!

DO NOT ARREST BUSH!!! KILL HIM!!!!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fire7070 (talk • contribs)

AAAAAAAAA! IT'S A GENOCIDAL MANIAC! —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 12:55, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

UnNews:Flame war sputters, peace breaks out all over

I heard a rumour that Dubya and Cheney are getting a comedy/musical/variety show after they get out of politics. Sure, some people might say that I just made that up, but some people don't share my pleasantly distorted sense of reality. This, my friends, is what happens when you're wearing someone else's glasses. And their pants. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 20:04, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Ending this

Let us all agree to disagree. Bush may not be impeached and not everyone likes him, but he is still the President until the next person elected takes over in 2009. --Lt. Sir Orion Blastar (talk) 18:29, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

“Bush may not be impeached and not everyone likes him, but he is still the President until the next person elected takes over in 2009.”

~ Captain Obvious on whatever it is that we're talking about

Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 18:35, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

I might add that not everybody likes Dick Cheney, but he's still the vice president. Or janitor. I'm always getting those two mixed up. --THE 21:57, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

At least Batman keeps foiling his plans to rob Gotham City Bank. Maybe that's The Penguin. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 22:20, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Hey everyone, I'm using forum talk!

Woooooow! -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 22:22, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Blame Manforman. He thought that all the talking was clogging up the forum; a type of page that's made for, y'know, talking. That Forum pages have talkpages makes my head swim. Then it stays in the water for too long and my ears get all wrinkled. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 22:28, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

The whole prospect of having a talk page for forums intrigues me. Is there some sort of Talk:Forum Talk where I can propose an idea for a Talk: Talk: Forum Talk? -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 23:51, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Like Forum talk talk:Get George Bush arrested, NOW!? Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 00:05, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes, and the first thing to go in the talk page for this talk page would be this very subsection, because it's cloggin up this talk page and is flamewarring. If you must flamewar, please do so in the talk:forum talk page rather than the forum page. --THE 21:10, 31 July 2007 (UTC)