Forum:On Famine's Dickery and 5 Important Suggestions
This was originally taken from Forum:Ban Patrol???, but I decided to copy it here.
Although Famine is blocking users for being dicks, I honestly think he is guilty of violating the same rule that he enforces. Rather than blocking users with expiry times that are worthy of their actions (as described in UN:BAN), he is blocking users with the main reason being that he does not like the users involved. One such example is with Kip the Dip. Although Kip can be annoying and somethings violates rules, he is more of a minor problem than a major nuisance and even contributes sometimes (although not much). Manforman has written a lot of featured material, although he has messed with silly forum topics in the past and causes some minor drama.
Essentally, what I'm trying to say here are the following:
- Admins were given their powers for a reason: to protect and serve the people, not to use their powers to gain leverage in personal disputes or rule Uncyclopedia.
- Don't be a dick, even if you are an admin.
- Don't ban useful contributors just because they like flamewarring.
- Our goal is to be funny and entertain our readers, not be stupid and scare them off.
- The average reader usually doesn't care about the internal workings and policies of Uncyclopedia.
If Uncyclopedia can't understand these rules, then it has failed to live up to its purpose and I have no business being here. --Sir Starnestommy (Talk • Contribs • CUN • Capt.) 21:46, November 3, 2007
- Sorry Famine, but your bans have recently been WAY out of line. Infinite bans are for people who fill their contrib lists with vandalism, not contributions. Don't be a dick. -- Village Idiot♠KUN Free Speech 22:01, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
- I also forgot to add this: banning otherwise good contributors solely for being overly dramatic only causes more drama. --Sir Starnestommy (Talk • Contribs • CUN • Capt.) 22:40, November 3, 2007
- What if your Drama Counter is near full? With Ban Patrol, VFH and UGotM megadrama episodes under his belt, Manforman has little room for dramatic improvements.
- Nevertheless, I still agree with most of your points. The odd numbered points, especially. --
- We do have to make sure drama is not encouraged, of course. There comes a point when too much drama just outweighs any number of good contributions. The question is working out whether certain people have crossed that line. --Whhhy?Whut?How? *Back from the dead* 02:42, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- First and foremost, no one is above the site. The good of Uncyclopedia has to come first. In the past we have made difficult decisions over talented, but confrontational, contributors, and though I would always regret losing any decent writer, sometimes that is the price you have to pay.
- Having said that, I'm not adverse to a little drama on the site. We are a community who have wrapped ourselves around a satire website. As with any community we will have disagreements, arguments, personality clashes, etc. As long as we can see passed this for the common good we do well, but sometimes admins are called in to deal with these situations and need to make the hard choices. Mostly I think we get it right, and if we don't, we can always change the decision later. On a Wiki, nothing is set in stone.
- With regards to infibans, I do use them in what I consider deserving cases, though I would be reluctant to use them on "established" users and decent contributors unless they had serious cause to impliment the final solution. For an established user who loves working on this site a month may seem like a long sentence, three months may feel like banishment. We DO need to make sure that the punishment fits the crime. In the case of the "guilty" listed above they HAVE had numerous warnings, and I can appreciate you can only give people so many chances, perhaps we need to impliment a probationary sentence on some individuals. A one more incident and the ban returns/is doubled/etc policy. -- Sir Mhaille (talk to me)
- I got banned for a month by Famine. That sparked drama. Now, I feel lucky that I didn't get an infiniban, like some other users. Marshal Uncyclopedian! Talk to me!
02:12, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- We do have to make sure drama is not encouraged, of course. There comes a point when too much drama just outweighs any number of good contributions. The question is working out whether certain people have crossed that line. --Whhhy?Whut?How? *Back from the dead* 02:42, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- I also forgot to add this: banning otherwise good contributors solely for being overly dramatic only causes more drama. --Sir Starnestommy (Talk • Contribs • CUN • Capt.) 22:40, November 3, 2007
Immediate diffusion of bad karma
The real 5 important suggestions!
- Open Internet Explorer
- Fail
- Open Firefox
- ???
- Profit!
Sir Ljlego, GUN VFH FIYC WotM SG WHotM PWotM AotM EGAEDM ANotM + (Talk) 21:49, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
- Shut up, I'm trying to be serious here. --Sir Starnestommy (Talk • Contribs • CUN • Capt.) 21:50, November 3, 2007
- I like Famine. He's tough like a nickel steak, but on the inside he's soft and tender...like a nickel steak. Perhaps you two need to snuggle? Maybe have some pillow talk? Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 21:52, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
But, how can this be serious, this is Uncyclopedia
Parakeet x 242 --Capercorn FLAME! what? UNATO OWS 21:53, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
You know what?
Whenever I hear of (or am part of) a Ban problem with Famine involved, It's always ridculously long for the infractions. I am up to the roof with this. I have no fucking idea what the Radioactivewhatever guy does, but as for kip and Manforman, they are just good users who have a little problems. Infinite. Heck no. Month? Heck yes. Another complaint/flamewar on BP, about ANY admin, and if I think the ban was way too long, I go on strike. and the Is it even possible to organise a strike on Uncyclopedia? If not, I'll stick to Plan B. You don't want to know what my Plan B is. --Lt. High Gen. Grue The Few The Proud, The Marines 22:05, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
- All I know about Plan B is it involves chemical warfare. --Sir Starnestommy (Talk • Contribs • CUN • Capt.) 22:08, November 3, 2007
- Tab and Pop Rocks? Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 22:11, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
- No, Plan B does not involve any biological Weapons. It's me leaving Uncyclopedia. AW DAMNIT..... --Lt. High Gen. Grue The Few The Proud, The Marines 22:21, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
- I was thinking about my Plan B. Leaving here is actually Plan C. --Sir Starnestommy (Talk • Contribs • CUN • Capt.) 22:22, November 3, 2007
- My Plan C is Shotguns. Lots of Shotguns. --Lt. High Gen. Grue The Few The Proud, The Marines 22:23, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
- I was thinking about my Plan B. Leaving here is actually Plan C. --Sir Starnestommy (Talk • Contribs • CUN • Capt.) 22:22, November 3, 2007
- You people talked me into it. Okee allright. I'll just ban Famine for a week or 2, I'll do that. Maybe three to set an example. And no TV after eight.--Vosnul 23:48, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
So
What the fuck do you want the community to do? Talk to Famine yourself. Unless you already have, in which case, make him a pie and try again. --Hotadmin4u69 [TALK] 05:03, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Haha. Good old famine, he's got to live up to his name. I mean, there's got to be some complete bastard to keep people in line.. Let's face it, people that witnessed the nin thing, and this for example will think to themselves, "I'm gonna take warnings seriously" and not fuck up. People have to be made examples of. —Braydie 15:11, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- So we infiban good contributors for nothing? - P.M., WotM, & GUN, Sir Led Balloon (Tick Tock) (Contribs) 15:13, Nov 4
- Sorry, not for nothing. But for stuff that seems pretty minor, IMHO. And I'm not really sure what Kip did, other than somehow wind up on Famine's bad side a few weeks ago. - P.M., WotM, & GUN, Sir Led Balloon (Tick Tock) (Contribs) 15:14, Nov 4
- Hang on, hang on...Are we arguing again? AGAIN? We have people stating backup plans to leave, one has left or has threatened to leave recently (Not sure which) and another on has fucked off without trace. Why can't we shut up, stop whinging and get on with our lives? Yes Famine banned someone for too long, so what? It's Famine, what do you expect? Just knock the ban down to something reasonable and lets concentrate on doing what we should be doing here; writing good stuff, having a laugh and keeping the bellends out.
- For making the ban length reasonable and getting on with our miserable lives. - P.M., WotM, & GUN, Sir Led Balloon (Tick Tock) (Contribs) 15:21, Nov 4
- Wow. You just posted that entire argument in the time it took me to type my comment. Oh well, I'm still posting it. No sense in letting good pixels go to waste. Unsolicited conversation Extravagant beauty PEEING 15:28, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Nov 4, 15:19
- For making the ban length reasonable and getting on with our miserable lives. - P.M., WotM, & GUN, Sir Led Balloon (Tick Tock) (Contribs) 15:21, Nov 4
- Hang on, hang on...Are we arguing again? AGAIN? We have people stating backup plans to leave, one has left or has threatened to leave recently (Not sure which) and another on has fucked off without trace. Why can't we shut up, stop whinging and get on with our lives? Yes Famine banned someone for too long, so what? It's Famine, what do you expect? Just knock the ban down to something reasonable and lets concentrate on doing what we should be doing here; writing good stuff, having a laugh and keeping the bellends out.
- Sorry, not for nothing. But for stuff that seems pretty minor, IMHO. And I'm not really sure what Kip did, other than somehow wind up on Famine's bad side a few weeks ago. - P.M., WotM, & GUN, Sir Led Balloon (Tick Tock) (Contribs) 15:14, Nov 4
- You just scared the hell out of me. Having people "made examples of" is not a comforting term. We see IP's banned for two weeks for vandalism, users banned for 27 years for slander, and regulars infinibanned for arguing. Sure it's annoying, and yes want to stop it, but we don't make Uncyclopedia for us. We make Uncyclopedia for the readers, the readers who are not, in any way, affected by this. Why can't we deal with irritating users personally, like banning them for a week and then discussing the ban and possible solutions/punishments on their talk page instead of banning them for eternity on a whim? The only people who will see these examples are the regulars who know the users, and from what I've seen we are none too happy about this. Unsolicited conversation Extravagant beauty PEEING 15:28, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- That's not what I said. Looking up the ban reason now: "No more flame wars." - not allowed. It's like, say Santa Claus went out and murdered 300 people, would he not go to prison because he was a good contributor to the world? That ban was a wake up call, no one is an exception, and it's like Mhaille said, no one is above uncyclopedia - not even the admins. Famine was given the power because he is a good contributor to the site and still to this day keeps the site's best interests in mind. —Braydie 15:30, 4 November 2007 (UTC) Conflict: I understand he got warnings though? right? —Braydie 15:30, 4 November 2007 (UTC) Conflict again, bonner: Another thing with admins, if they want the discussion (I can't see this being an argument because I don't think anyone will not like someone because of this) to carry on, they'll leave the forum open, if they don't, they'll lock - and because of me saying that it leads to be locked, you guys need to sort it out and wake up a bit quicker. —Braydie 15:30, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- I think you may misunderstand my point Braydie...recently there have been arguments over this, that and the other on the forums; too much whoring, people threatening to leave, inappropriate content, people leaving and writing long annoying leaving messages and now this. I'm actually sick of it all. It actually feels like Uncyc has gone to shit recently and I just want us to stop arguing over things like this and get on with what we should be doing here. Nov 4, 15:40
- Forum:On the current state of Uncyclopedia and what we can do about it is my response.-Sir Ljlego, GUN VFH FIYC WotM SG WHotM PWotM AotM EGAEDM ANotM + (Talk) 15:45, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- I agree very muchly with Bonner. Someone just post a link to Nobody cares, and then MO can come in and demonstrate his significant madness to the forums. Then we'll all have a good, long laugh about the whole ordeal, wonder what on earth we were thinking and move on. - P.M., WotM, & GUN, Sir Led Balloon (Tick Tock) (Contribs) 15:48, Nov 4
- Look at the ban logs for Manforman, Kip the Dip &Radioactive afikomen. I'm sorry if this sounds harsh, but both M4M and Kip's ban logs show a consistent pattern of not-silly, semi-serious, and serious bans, so fuck them. RA appears to have only one ban and as such he should probably get a warning and a reduced sentence, IMO. IMO! Woo! (that last bit was for TLB). Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 16:12, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Yay! I feel loved! But seriously, I'm against banning any useful contributors infinitely. Unless someone goes on a blanking spree or seriously starts insulting everyone(and I mean like telling admins and other users to fuck off for no reason), there's no reason to give em eternity. Of course, I must admit that I am extremely biased against Famine. But my opinion stands. - P.M., WotM, & GUN, Sir Led Balloon (Tick Tock) (Contribs) 18:55, Nov 4
- Look at the ban logs for Manforman, Kip the Dip &Radioactive afikomen. I'm sorry if this sounds harsh, but both M4M and Kip's ban logs show a consistent pattern of not-silly, semi-serious, and serious bans, so fuck them. RA appears to have only one ban and as such he should probably get a warning and a reduced sentence, IMO. IMO! Woo! (that last bit was for TLB). Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 16:12, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- I agree very muchly with Bonner. Someone just post a link to Nobody cares, and then MO can come in and demonstrate his significant madness to the forums. Then we'll all have a good, long laugh about the whole ordeal, wonder what on earth we were thinking and move on. - P.M., WotM, & GUN, Sir Led Balloon (Tick Tock) (Contribs) 15:48, Nov 4
- Forum:On the current state of Uncyclopedia and what we can do about it is my response.-Sir Ljlego, GUN VFH FIYC WotM SG WHotM PWotM AotM EGAEDM ANotM + (Talk) 15:45, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- I think you may misunderstand my point Braydie...recently there have been arguments over this, that and the other on the forums; too much whoring, people threatening to leave, inappropriate content, people leaving and writing long annoying leaving messages and now this. I'm actually sick of it all. It actually feels like Uncyc has gone to shit recently and I just want us to stop arguing over things like this and get on with what we should be doing here. Nov 4, 15:40
- That's not what I said. Looking up the ban reason now: "No more flame wars." - not allowed. It's like, say Santa Claus went out and murdered 300 people, would he not go to prison because he was a good contributor to the world? That ban was a wake up call, no one is an exception, and it's like Mhaille said, no one is above uncyclopedia - not even the admins. Famine was given the power because he is a good contributor to the site and still to this day keeps the site's best interests in mind. —Braydie 15:30, 4 November 2007 (UTC) Conflict: I understand he got warnings though? right? —Braydie 15:30, 4 November 2007 (UTC) Conflict again, bonner: Another thing with admins, if they want the discussion (I can't see this being an argument because I don't think anyone will not like someone because of this) to carry on, they'll leave the forum open, if they don't, they'll lock - and because of me saying that it leads to be locked, you guys need to sort it out and wake up a bit quicker. —Braydie 15:30, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Join the Rebellion!
I have done the unprecedented and told Famine off on his talk page. Does anyone want to support my cause?-- Phlegm Leoispotter * (garble! jank!) 15:55, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- The cabal supports you.
- That certainly is unprecedented. I myself have certainly never watched people do that ever so often since I got here three years ago, for instance.--<<>> 01:37, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
I think everyone should calm the fuck down
What is it, three forums now? People calling for Famine to be deopped, others threatening to leave, ENOUGH!
Each of those three users can send an email to Famine and discuss it with him, or they can contact any other admin via IRC. Famine will not be deopped, nor will any sort of committee be established. Famine is doing his job, and has been doing it for decades, and very efficiently so. He has the first and foremost line of defense against Drama. If he's too harsh sometimes, well, that's him. But he can always be reasoned with. Did someone try to, except for posting forums all over the place? Here's my suggestion of the day:
- Forget about deopping. Not going to happen.
- Talk with the man, don't pester him.
- Let the banned users talk with him and reason with him.
- Instead of threatning to leave if this and this is not carried out, try to extighuish the drama that has been ruining the place, once again.
- ENOUGH WITH THE FORUMS!
My two Agorot. That's the Israeli version of Cents. Doesn't worth shit. ~ 18:29, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- I think these are all good suggestions, but the only problem I see with getting people to talk with Famine is that he never users IRC and I don't think email is fast enough for conversation. --Sir Starnestommy (Talk • Contribs • CUN • Capt.) 18:31, November 4, 2007
- Conversation? "What did I do?"..."[Link to ban summary], explanation."...then either "Oh, I'm sorry. I won't let it happen again. Forgive?" or "Screw you! *Pout*". That's, what, three emails? The timeout would do good for all involved, methinks. Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 18:36, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- I have found that it's actually more complicated than that. In my experience doing peer mediation, I have found that simple disputes often take a lot of effort to resolve. I think what we really need is some sort of court system. --Sir Starnestommy (Talk • Contribs • CUN • Capt.) 18:42, November 4, 2007
- Aren't you just trying to make things more complicated, vis a vis, desimplificating what could (and should) be the opposite of labyrinthian? I mean, look at your shoes. Laces? Pshaw! Velcro is the future. Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 19:02, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- I have found that it's actually more complicated than that. In my experience doing peer mediation, I have found that simple disputes often take a lot of effort to resolve. I think what we really need is some sort of court system. --Sir Starnestommy (Talk • Contribs • CUN • Capt.) 18:42, November 4, 2007
- Conversation? "What did I do?"..."[Link to ban summary], explanation."...then either "Oh, I'm sorry. I won't let it happen again. Forgive?" or "Screw you! *Pout*". That's, what, three emails? The timeout would do good for all involved, methinks. Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 18:36, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
You fucking people
Okay, so we all know that nobody is above the rules whether they be a "good contributor" or administrator, but I think most of us (with the exception of maybe Braydie and Modusoperandi) can agree that the bans warranted to the three aforementioned users are unnecessary, excessive, and should be reconsidered. Users have engaged in more hostile flamewars before and have received less severe bans than the ones Famine gave to these users. Yes, Famine is an excellent administrator and I highly respect him, but that doesn't mean his judgment isn't to be questioned especially in this situation. So, I say we stop arguing over frivolous things and work on getting those three contributors back into the Uncyclopedia community. --Hotadmin4u69 [TALK] 19:15, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- NO U -- 19:16, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Why don't we all shut up now
This is only proof that Uncyclopedia needs an ArbCom, so forums like this don't happen. Dispute Resolution is gud. Besides, if we don't stop, Drama, will show up and make things worse. --Capercorn FLAME! what? UNATO OWS 19:51, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, and you wouldn't want that to happen, would you? DRAMA (WORSHIP ME OR FEAR MY WRATH) 19:55, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- I say that we allow such forums, but establish a judiciary system like the United States Supreme Court. --Sir Starnestommy (Talk • Contribs • CUN • Capt.) 19:57, November 4, 2007
- Or, ArbCom? --Capercorn FLAME! what? UNATO OWS 20:04, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- I feel the obvious solution is to recognise me as the supreme executive power within Uncyclopedia, due to a recent farcical aquatic ceremony that I was involved in. Bloody peasants.... -- Sir Mhaille (talk to me)
- Instead of an Arbcom, how about something more like this? - P.M., WotM, & GUN, Sir Led Balloon (Tick Tock) (Contribs) 21:13, Nov 4
- Like adopt-a-noob for admins? I don't think a system like that can help us since we're not nearly as admin-happy as Wikipedia is. Since we have the users vote on the admins, only well-established users can become admins (unless a b-crat goes nuts). Unsolicited conversation Extravagant beauty PEEING 21:35, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- True, but how many of them have ever been admins before? From what I understand, it seems pretty different from regular userdom. After all, the admins are above everyone else. - P.M., WotM, & GUN, Sir Led Balloon (Tick Tock) (Contribs) 00:18, Nov 5
- Oh, so you meant that the experienced admins should train the freshman admins. The Wikipedia page actually pertains to experienced users training admin wannabes, not admins training admins. That would be a good system, but how many admins would actually be willing to do it? With our relatively low number of active admins their job is time-consuming enough as it is. Unsolicited conversation Extravagant beauty PEEING 00:31, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
- True, but how many of them have ever been admins before? From what I understand, it seems pretty different from regular userdom. After all, the admins are above everyone else. - P.M., WotM, & GUN, Sir Led Balloon (Tick Tock) (Contribs) 00:18, Nov 5
- Like adopt-a-noob for admins? I don't think a system like that can help us since we're not nearly as admin-happy as Wikipedia is. Since we have the users vote on the admins, only well-established users can become admins (unless a b-crat goes nuts). Unsolicited conversation Extravagant beauty PEEING 21:35, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- Instead of an Arbcom, how about something more like this? - P.M., WotM, & GUN, Sir Led Balloon (Tick Tock) (Contribs) 21:13, Nov 4
- I feel the obvious solution is to recognise me as the supreme executive power within Uncyclopedia, due to a recent farcical aquatic ceremony that I was involved in. Bloody peasants.... -- Sir Mhaille (talk to me)
- Or, ArbCom? --Capercorn FLAME! what? UNATO OWS 20:04, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- I say that we allow such forums, but establish a judiciary system like the United States Supreme Court. --Sir Starnestommy (Talk • Contribs • CUN • Capt.) 19:57, November 4, 2007
Distraction!
- Or this:
<youtube>QYXqlgzAc-0</youtube>
--Capercorn FLAME! what? UNATO OWS 20:05, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Excuse the big tags and bold, but What does this have to do with the topic? --Sir Starnestommy (Talk • Contribs • CUN • Capt.) 20:10, November 4, 2007
This blatand abuse of media maked me sick. It has no relevance with regard to the topic and is absolutely positively nausiating. To even think about contemplating such a offence is to sick to discribe. Who in there right mind would expose honest innocent people to Rick Ashley ?.Oh, The humanity --Vosnul 20:51, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
You all seem to miss the point
*Infinite* is not infinite. Infinite *can* be infinite, but it doesn't have to be. Infinite can be "until you tell me why it shouldn't be, and swear on your grandma's sagging teats that you'll be good", it can be "until an admin takes pity on you", it can be "until I think it's been plenty long enough". There have been dozens of "infinite" bans which were lifted minutes, days, and months after they were given.
"Infinite", for well-established users, has traditionally been "you've done something very bad, and we're going to discuss and debate your future while you sweat it out".
When I start banning for flame-warring and drama, the proper response, and I look directly at you Starnestommy and Leoispotter, is NOT to stir up more with flame-filled posts in various places. If you have issues, by all means address them. Talk to me. Ask me my motivations.
Don't just fan the flames, call me a dick, and stir up more drama. Did you think that was helping? 11/05 23:00
- I must concur with Famine. I told everybody Famine was a sensible, rational tyrant. But nobody listened, nobody! --Hotadmin4u69 [TALK] 23:46, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
- Let the ass-kissing...begin! Hey, no head starts, e|m|c! Famine, have I told you how pretty you are lately? - P.M., WotM, & GUN, Sir Led Balloon (Tick Tock) (Contribs) 23:51, Nov 5
- Sorry about that, I just got a bit carried away over the ban situation. However, a couple of the suggestions I made at the opening were a good idea, like 2, 4, and 5. Note that #5 was referring to all users, not just admins, and I apologize if I made it sound like it was specifically towards admins. --Sir Starnestommy (Talk • Contribs • CUN • Capt.) 00:02, November 6, 2007
- It was the title "On Famine's Dickery" which made it seem like it was directed towards me. Not really sure why.... 11/06 00:18
- Some of us know that infinite =/ infinte. But many others don't, so this finite infinite bans lead to misunderstandigs and drama. A note in the ban log may be a good way to avoid this kind of confusions.---Asteroid B612 (aka Rataube) - Ñ 00:56, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- Some guys use "Indefinite". Mr. Briggs Inc. 11:26, 9 November 2007 (UTC) Eh?
- Some of us know that infinite =/ infinte. But many others don't, so this finite infinite bans lead to misunderstandigs and drama. A note in the ban log may be a good way to avoid this kind of confusions.---Asteroid B612 (aka Rataube) - Ñ 00:56, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- It was the title "On Famine's Dickery" which made it seem like it was directed towards me. Not really sure why.... 11/06 00:18
- Sorry about that, I just got a bit carried away over the ban situation. However, a couple of the suggestions I made at the opening were a good idea, like 2, 4, and 5. Note that #5 was referring to all users, not just admins, and I apologize if I made it sound like it was specifically towards admins. --Sir Starnestommy (Talk • Contribs • CUN • Capt.) 00:02, November 6, 2007
- Let the ass-kissing...begin! Hey, no head starts, e|m|c! Famine, have I told you how pretty you are lately? - P.M., WotM, & GUN, Sir Led Balloon (Tick Tock) (Contribs) 23:51, Nov 5
So the moral of Today's story is: label as your infinite bans as "finite" (yet let them last as long as the current infinite bans). That'll screw with their heads.--<<>> 01:10, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
The other moral is: Famine can be reasoned with. I have reasoned with him myself, to good effect. Anyway, it's best to eschew Drama; that's where people overextend themselves and get all emotional and moist. Stay dry. ----OEJ 00:07, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
What's in a name?
I think Famine gets a bad rap at least partly because of his username. If his name was "Mr. Soft and Fluffy", I don't think people would complain nearly as much. Hans Johnson as in "keep ya hans off my" (cover your eyes!) 20:05, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
- That was his maiden name. Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 21:17, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Reconsidering, if Famine wanted an ominous name, then perhaps "Deimos" (Greek for pain) would have been equally effective. Hans Johnson as in "keep ya hans off my" (cover your eyes!) 22:22, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Suggestions for a newer, softer name for Famine
- Mr. Soft & Fluffy
- Huffer-in-Chief
- Mr. Snugglebuddy - P.M., WotM, & GUN, Sir Led Balloon (Tick Tock) (Contribs) 22:30, Nov 7
- You obviously have a death wish. Good luck with that. -- Sir Codeine K·H·P·B·M·N·C·U·Bu. · (Harangue) 22:31, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
- For the record, I didn't start the heading, it was Hans Johnson. I'm just here to rattle off frivolous names. - P.M., WotM, & GUN, Sir Led Balloon (Tick Tock) (Contribs) 22:33, Nov 7
- Femine. Sounds a bit more girly. -- Sir Mhaille (talk to me)
- Sounds like a douche: "Femine: for those times when you don't feel clean...down there" Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 23:48, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
- Bomble. Because it's just a generally awesome name. --THE 23:09, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
- Dick. That way, all of these insults are null and void. – Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize • writings • SU&W) 00:58 Nov 08, 2007
- No, no. It should be softer, but dignified. "Richard", and everyone only calls him Dick informally. Hans Johnson as in "keep ya hans off my" (cover your eyes!) 01:02, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
- Sir Richard Famine, perhaps? – Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize • writings • SU&W) 01:12 Nov 08, 2007
- Sir Dickery Famine? -- Sir Mhaille (talk to me)
- Sir Richard Famine, perhaps? – Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize • writings • SU&W) 01:12 Nov 08, 2007
- No, no. It should be softer, but dignified. "Richard", and everyone only calls him Dick informally. Hans Johnson as in "keep ya hans off my" (cover your eyes!) 01:02, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Actually, it's "Little Bobby in the wheelchair with his teddy", thank you very much. Now hold on while I ban all of you.... 11/08 00:44
- I hate your hold music. Seriously. Make it Metallica or something. – Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize • writings • SU&W) 00:58 Nov 08, 2007
- Fondle Fou-Lu 01:23, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
- Rumplestiltskin -- 01:56, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
- Mr. Tiddlywinks. • Spang • ☃ • talk • 02:04, 08 Nov 2007
- I think the best name for Famine would be something like • Spang • ☃ • talk •, Brigadier General Sir Zombiebaron, or even – Sir Skullthumper, MD (criticize • writings • SU&W) 01:01 Nov 08, 2007, if he wants. If you need more suggestions, I'm ready to tell you more. But not <insert name here>. That one sucks. Fresh Stain Serq Fet of Pokemon (At your service) 05:59, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
- How about we let him keep his name, but he will have to write in pinkish fonts from now on? I mean, how bad can you're all banned for life be? ~ 06:59, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
- Spangalicious-- Phlegm Leoispotter * (garble! jank!) 19:43, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
- Bubbles -- Hi, hey! I'M A MOTERFUCKING NIGGER BITCH LOVER 19:46, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
- You need to stop playing bioshock. ~ 22:45, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
- That's Mister Bubbles, to you. Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 23:34, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
- You need to stop playing bioshock. ~ 22:45, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
- War or Pestilence or Death would be good alternatives. --SPY 23:35, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
- Hickory. I'd also like to rename Starnestommy "Doc" so that this forum topic appears as "Hickory's Dickery, by Doc", at which point we'll be only a mouse and a clock away from having ourselves a good ol' fashioned nursery rhyme. --Whhhy?Whut?How? *Back from the dead* 01:03, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
- Keep it Famine, the third horseman of the Apocalypso. Famine is a good username. He rides a black horse and plays a marimba which is balanced across his saddlehorn, bringing Apocalypso music to the suffering peoples of Earth. ----OEJ 00:12, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
- And then starving them to death. To the tune of Apocalypso music. How nice. </sarcasm> Hans Johnson as in "keep ya hans off my" (cover your eyes!) 02:54, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
- Feast Heh heh heh -- 03:29, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
- How about, Savethefamines, with SAVINGS!!! -->:( 18:23, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
- Faminé I think it sounds nice. Conniving 19:06, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
- Ralph Just because. --The Acceptable Cainad (Fnord) 02:03, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
- Old Ironsides Because, like any good ship, cannonballs bounce off him. Hans Johnson as in "keep ya hans off my" (cover your eyes!) 03:50, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
- Faminem dawg --Vosnul 20:12, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
- GPT (previous version) this situation just sounds familiar to a complex inner workings thing with Halopedia, people got mad at admins, admins got mad at people, IRC bans were placed, prejudices, grudges, eventually people started killing each other...... okay, not the last one, unless your talking about over XBL in Halo 3 of course... but.... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Guitarplayer001 (talk • contribs)
- Plague, like from that movie Hackers.