Forum:Petition: Delete BHOP

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Before I went on a rant how BHOP detracts from writing, but I realize that isn't the main problem. It detracts mostly from reading, which in turn lowers vote count, which lessens article frequency, which spurs everyone to whine about everything.

Therefore, let's get rid of it.

Sign Here

1. -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 00:45, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
2. Sure why not? Zombieninja Discourse? MUN 01:44, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

How about you get an account before you make decisions concerning the welfare of the site. Colin ALL YOUR BASEHeaney! Casa Bey Superfly Portfolio 01:43, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Kay Zombieninja Discourse? MUN 01:45, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Firefail lolol. Colin ALL YOUR BASEHeaney! Casa Bey Superfly Portfolio 01:46, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

1. For. - Serves no purpose (for this site) - I think (in the nicest possible way) some people should try out Myspace or Bebo, "Lazyness" and "silly humour" are not really what the aim is, if you catch my drift.--Sycamore (Talk) 12:44, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
2. End it. --Hotadmin4u69 ^[TALK] 04:47, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Drama Here

NO! NO! NO!!! NOOOOOOO!!!! You can't delete the very thing that keeps people distracted. The whole purpose of Uncyclopedia is to distract. We're just so good at it that we distract ourselves. And we're not to a million yet. VT 01:37, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

The purpose of Uncyclopedia is to provide laughter and distraction to others in the form of articles. No one outside of the Uncyclopedia community actually reads BHOP.

By the way, for someone with over 40% of their edits in the forum, you're in no position to lecture me about what Uncyclopedia is about -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 04:08, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm not going to lecture anyone about what the site is about, but I see what you mean. While a lot of my edits are in the forum, I (a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far, away...) used to actually edit articles. Then I realized a lot of the shit I wrote was sub-par and noobish. So I now attempt to help with the site, contributing in VFD, voting on decisions where voting counts, and occasionaly VFH and VFP. I can see why you think it's disrupting the site, but as long as it's people who wouldn't normally contribute much anyway, leave them be and let more experienced users visit them, like an orphanage or a zoo. Colin ALL YOUR BASEHeaney! Casa Bey Superfly Portfolio 04:15, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

So you'd prefer to laze away instead of actually aim at improving yourself? I see. -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 04:21, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Besides, anyone who actually does anything to harm the site (i.e. Blanking, Chcuk Norris jokes, BENSON!...) usually gets caught and banninated. You can't claim that everyone here is a lazy bastard just because they don't contribute directly. Colin ALL YOUR BASEHeaney! Casa Bey Superfly Portfolio 04:24, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. I normally wouldn't care, but my record for lowest-favored article on VFH was recently and consistently challenged/broken recently. If we don't shape up quickly, we're going to die. -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 04:27, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

I personally think the site in general has been on a 6-month writers block. But like I said, not all of us can write really good material (i.e. look at my contributions and you'll find no writing for about the last 10 months, with the exception of Joe the Plumber), but you'll still find some of us contributing at VFD, reverting crap edits, and VFH/VFPing, and maybe Peeing. Colin ALL YOUR BASEHeaney! Casa Bey Superfly Portfolio 04:30, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Hea Colin! Thanks for taking part, and being a useful member of the community. Especially over at VFD... MrN  Fork you! 10:50, Dec 3

Yay! I'm useful! Colin ALL YOUR BASEHeaney! Casa Bey Superfly Portfolio 19:13, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Those who don't feel like signing the above sign down here to keep your fluffy syrupy culty BENSONy goodness that is BHOP.

• Deleting BHOP Colin ALL YOUR BASEHeaney! Casa Bey Superfly Portfolio 01:36, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
• NOOOOOOOOO!!!! Must...get...to...a...million... VT 01:38, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
• No Deleting BHOP Delete everything else if you must, but leave the hallowed halls alone! --The Acceptable  Cainad  (Fnord) 06:50, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
• Speedy Keep. --T. (talk) 14:36, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Delete BHOP, BUT ONLY when we get to a million

• P.M., WotM, & GUN, Sir Led Balloon (Tick Tock) (Contribs) 01:49, Dec 3
• For. Also, for making Cajek a sysop when he gets to 100 bans. MrN  Fork you! 02:05, Dec 3

Pointing out of the fact that TKF's logic could be applied to any forum discussion in any section, and in fact any action that isn't reading an article, and therefore it might be easier to delete everything that isn't an article and force people to do nothing but read uncyclopedia articles all day, regardless of what they actually want to do, because people doing what they want to do is clearly not in Uncyclopedia's best interests

Idiot. • Spang • ☃ • talk • 01:59, 03 Dec 2008

Clap, clap, clap. VT 02:07, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

o_q Oh I say, good show, good show, Mr. Spang Colin ALL YOUR BASEHeaney! Casa Bey Superfly Portfolio 02:12, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Hah! Oh, Spang, even your defenses are needlessly wordy and random. And you even got your brainless cronies to defend you so quickly, too!

No, this could not be applied to "anything that is not an article," because BHOP is one of the only things on this site that doesn't actually serve a purpose. And it does a very, very good job at doing nothing. If people want to be idiots, go do it on 4chan, or Gaia, or on some shitty forum elsewhere. If we delete BHOP, people who could actually contribute to Uncyclopedia otherwise would go do something constructive, like go to Pee Review or, God forbid, actually edit articles or vote on VFH. And if they stayed only for the BHOP, then good riddance. -- T​K​F​​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​U​CK 04:02, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Cronies was uncalled for. Brainless I can accept. Colin ALL YOUR BASEHeaney! Casa Bey Superfly Portfolio 18:04, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Dude, I was actually joking when I suggested you make this forum. As I said in IRC... BHOP stimulates a feeling of community involvement. Our strength of community spirit is very important to us. BHOP provides a place for users to mess around in when they don't fancy doing the more "serious" stuff. Having a casual laugh and joke with the other users on the site has got to be a good thing. Some users don't do much other than edit in BHOP, but if a user makes 50 BHOP posts to every 1 "useful" edit then that's more than fine with me. If they don't do anything EVER which is not in BHOP then I still probably don't care. If all they do is keep recent changes ticking over, and increasing our alexa rating, then that's fine also. I don't see the harm in it. Suggesting that people who edit BHOP would be doing something more "useful" if BHOP did not exist is simply bonkers. If people want to write articles they will, if people want to mess around in BHOP they will also. You can't force a user on a wiki to do anything. MrN  Fork you! 11:08, Dec 3

Mmm...steroid cupcakes. Also, Against. - Admiral Enzo Aquarius-Dial the Gate 04:35, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

For what Enzo said. User:Fag/sig5 11:21, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

The way I see it

OK, first let's establish that I've never been a "BHOP regular", or ever really posted much in it at all. But I remember when we created it, and why: to centralise all the off topic discussion in one place. Before we had BHOP, the other forums would get filled up with random meanderings and jokey posts. And I have no reason to doubt that if we deleted BHOP, that would start happening again. "So?" I hear you reply, "We can just delete them" - but for my part, I do enough deleting already, and I'd rather not have more work made for me.

The fact is that we're all here because we're aspiring comedians; or at the least, we share the attitude of not taking life too seriously. Yes, the primary goal of the site is to channel that attitude into the creation of articles, but we also need zones of what I'd call "unrestrained creativity"; that is, places where ideas can be formed through amusing conversation, and thoughts can be followed through to what Spike Milligan used to call "their illogical conclusion". One stupid post on BHOP could be responsible for the germ of a brilliant idea that develops into a featured article; and I believe that anything that furthers the cause of creativity should be utilised (with the possible exception of rape and murder).

That said, I tend to agree with the points made about certain people spending 95% of their time on the forums; it's not really what I'd call contributing to the primary objective of Uncyclopedia. I'm against sanctioning or discriminating against those people in general, but those who are just here to post in the forums shouldn't be too surprised if their opinions about the running of the site are held in less regard than those users who write regularly and/or perform the maintenance duties.

In summation: Keep BHOP. It's stupid, but it facilitates community interaction and, I believe, promulgates the cause of humour. And after all, drama and politics aside, that's what we're all about. -- Sir Codeine K·H·P·B·M·N·C·U·Bu. · (Harangue) 11:21, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

P.S.: TKF, sorry if I'm wrong, but you seem to be taking this (particularly in your interactions with Spang) a little personally. I appreciate "idiot" isn't the politest thing to be called, but let's all try and keep this discussion pragmatic and drama free, yes? I'm talking to all involved parties here, actually. It's a wonderful thing that we care so much about the aspects of the site we like, but bitching and fighting with each other is gonna degenerate the discussion and not get us anywhere. I love you all. Yes, even you, <insert name here>. -- Sir Codeine K·H·P·B·M·N·C·U·Bu. · (Harangue) 11:21, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

You sure you wanna admit to that in public? <insert name here> has quite a reputation, y'know! User:Fag/sig5 11:58, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

DANG {{Username}}!!!!!!!! ~ Mordillo where is my TITMOUSE? 17:51, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

That makes a million and two. Colin ALL YOUR BASEHeaney! Casa Bey Superfly Portfolio 17:55, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Whut?

I'm sorry, I thought the reason BHOP was created was to keep (forgive me) ridiculous posts like this off of the serious area. The way I see it, BHOP keeps the idiots in line, while worthwhile contributors could actually, you know, write 'n' stuff. Like Cainad says, you can't force someone to leave this site unless they do something ban-worthy. BHOP is for users and sometimes IPs to write their trite nonsense in their own industrial-grade steel-barred nonsense playpen without it being deleted and/or them getting banned. Deleting BHOP, I feel, would backfire. Instead of localizing and trivializing the usually harmless nonsense, the BHOP contributors would move back to the Village Dump, and no one wants that. Unless, of course, you're <insert name here>. Also, stop using the {{username}} template, please. That belongs in BHOP. • • • Necropaxx (T) {~} 17:10, Dec 3

Tee hee. :3 - Admiral Enzo Aquarius-Dial the Gate 18:09, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

First of all, I will stop using the template - PROVIDED <insert name here> STOPS USING IT! And I tolerate no nonsense anywhere! -- Style  Guide 19:48, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Yay, people know me!!! But yeah, I mean no offense to anyone, and I use BHOP to, if you will, train myself to be funny. I'm not a funny person. I'm a nerd. I have a social life. So I come here to find others that are kind of like me. I find nonsensical morons on BHOP. Either keep me there or find me a cage adjacent to Cajek. VT 21:56, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

That makes {{USERNAME}} victim number one million and three. Will it ever stop?!?! --Mr. Monkey Pant-hoot here. 01:17, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

That depends on how long it takes <insert name here> to catch on. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 01:31, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Ohhhh, it...wait...what? OHH!!! You SOB, <insert name here>!!! Dashing my hopes and dreams with your evil username template!! VT 01:42, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

My evil plan is complete! Now that I have <insert name here> in my grasp, the world will tremble before my might! Colin ALL YOUR BASEHeaney! Casa Bey Superfly Portfolio 01:59, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

HA! I didn't fall for it this time. But I still hate you, <insert name here>. VT 02:02, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

OK, quit talking about <insert name here> already! -- Style  Guide 18:09, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Not until they vote here to ban {{username}}. I wonder when will <insert name here> ever vote for banning {{username}}. Come on <insert name here> I know you, I have been watching your edits and you don't do crap about {{username}}. ----Pleb- Sawblade5 ^{( yell | FAQ | I did this )} 09:20, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

I think of BHOP as Uncyclopedia's anus. Without it, there would be shit everywhere. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 22:05, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Without an anus you become full of shit very quickly. MrN  Fork you! 00:53, Dec 4

Don't go dropping science on us. Poo freak. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 01:00, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

I so agree here. WTF are we tring ot get rid of this anyway. Even those so called experts at Wikipedia have off topic pages that are non serious. ----Pleb- Sawblade5 ^{( yell | FAQ | I did this )} 09:20, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

I think of Velosi-T as...OMG PUT THE LINK TO MY USERPAGE BACK UP YOU COCKSUCKER I NEED TO BE WHORED OUT!!!1!11!! Colin ALL YOUR BASEHeaney! Casa Bey Superfly Portfolio 22:14, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay, okay, I'll put the link back. Happy? VT 00:58, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, You know, if BHOP is gone, where are we ever going to put all our useless, random comments? The.original.joe.shmoe blahMUN queer!! 01:02, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Hehehe. VT 01:11, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

"Up you ass"? Unless the brutal American dialect has now left the word "your" behind in it's wake, I'm quite afraid that I don't understand. --Nachlader 09:39, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

BHOP is just a name, we could always spur off a second forum based on it! :D - Admiral Enzo Aquarius-Dial the Gate 17:24, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

"BENSON's 3-D House of Pancakes 2: Electric Boogaloo" Colin ALL YOUR BASEHeaney! Casa Bey Superfly Portfolio 17:33, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

I was thinking more along the lines of "PANIC! in the BHOP". But that works too. - Admiral Enzo Aquarius-Dial the Gate 17:36, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Son of a gun, there's a your page? VT 21:50, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm late.

God dammit. Oh well, nothing to do but lay a big ol' cabbage on this page.

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sirsysrq @ 23:23 Dec 4

Because we need the cabbage to keep us regular. VT 23:37, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

To add my two cents, BHOP certainly is not necessary, nor is it productive time. People should write more. The site is dying, and that is why: people don't write as much as they sit around and bs their time away. However, this is a community of writers, not a writing machine. People can chat with their buddies if they want. Personally, I do a lot of my bs-ing on Skype and not BHOP. I love my friends here and I love talking to them both about writing, ideas, Uncyc drama, and random bs that makes me laugh. But I don't think deleting BHOP will do shit. People will waste time if they want to. I personally feel that people who don't write or perform site maintenance have no business here and therefore should leave. But I can't make them. Who knows, they may end up discovering some hidden writing talent. But I think the biggest threat to this site is the user that does not write or contribute, and only serves to stir up drama and distract the real writers from doing real work. That is why this site is dying. sirsysrq @ 23:59 Dec 4

Trust me, this place would be hoppin' if I had any creativity. VT 00:16, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Writing is not a gift. It is a talent that is developed with certain proven strategies. sirsysrq @ 00:37 Dec 5

Lies! It is a gift! From Sophia! Your link is merely one of the spells that can summon her! Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc!! 03:36, 5 December 2008 (UTC)!

I think the problem is (along with BHOP) is that many of us are suffering from writer's block. I've got about 4 dead/abandoned articles lying around, just because I ran out of ideas. I could probably do something about it, but I waste all my time on forum topics. Therefore, Delete Village Dump. • • • Necropaxx (T) {~} 16:11, Dec 5

I have a total block. I can't come up with ANYTHING. I would be able to put out 2 great articles in a matter of days if I was able to think of things to put in an article about harpoons or Generic kung-fu noises. Suggestions? Anyone? VT 21:56, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

1) Watch some TV

2) Go see a movie

3) Read a book/magazine/newspaper

4) Go meet some people don't know. Failing that...

5) Go outside. Get some air.

You can't force inspiration, but you can give it a little push. Sophia's ways are not a complete mystery. Except for the mysterious parts. Those are mysterious. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 23:08, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, MO, I needed that boost. VT 01:32, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

You can try "in character", too. In my own humble experience, when it works it works really well. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 12:13, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Also, misdirection is always good. Iron Maiden is a good example of saying what your brain know, it not really that way real! If only I could remember what that was called. sirsysrq @ 17:32 Dec 6

Sometimes, repetition is good. On other occasions, repetition is good. Sadly, it can get awfully repetitive. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 22:16, 6 December 2008 (UTC) Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 22:16, 6 December 2008 (UTC)