Forum:(Another) open letter to the Cabal
Please forgive this blatant interjection into sysopadmintarianistical dealings.
I'm at something of a loss for words after seeing that the general consensus for this month's VFS is that no new ops are necessary nor will be provided. Perhaps I am alone in my view, perhaps the hidden gears of Uncyc have been turning this whole time, and I am merely oblivious to the productivity of our fantastic sysop staff. But from what I've seen since my return, especially in the last week or so, Uncyc is dead.
I first came to this website in late 2006. While I may not have been editing regularly for that whole time, I still regularly checked the website when I could, even during hiatuses, just to see how things were going. For the most part, things around here have been more or less okay. The ops work their asses off and get things done.
But in what is now my two years of Uncyc, I have never seen this site in as sorry of a state as it is right now. I have never (to my recollection) seen a gap in the feature queue. I have never had to chase down admins on IRC to make sure that the feature queue got taken care of when it was supposed to be taken care of.
I love our current ops. I think that the current op lineup does a fine job, but I think that they definitely need some reinforcement. We have plenty of able-bodied vets around the site that already do so much and would make great additions to the Cabal. This place has become a ghost town. What happened?
I hope that this is not misinterpreted to mean that the admins don't work, or that they don't work hard enough. I just think that much more needs to be done, and that this can only be accomplished with more ops. There are plenty of Uncyclopedians that would love to help out if only given the opportunity.
I also hope that this is not viewed as a self-endorsement for oppage. I did not have myself in mind when I wrote this; I have a few choice Uncyclopedians that will go unnamed so long as the VFS votes remain as they are. But please know that I have certain users in mind that are not myself.
Since I do not have a vote at VFS, I can only express my concern about a site that I have come to love. I hope something is done, and soon.
Cheers,
sirsysrq @ 22:18 Dec 1
- The state of featured articles has nothing to do with admins. We arrived to a consensus a while ago that we will switch to alternate day featuring due to the fact that VFH is dead, or very close to be, and we don't want to feature articles that recieve +5.
- As I've stated in the VFS vote - all of the maintenance work on Uncyclopedia is being carried out as efficiently as usual. You can find evidence to that by the fact that Ban Patrol is always being taken care of, there's no queue in VFD, maintenance queue is OK, QVFD is being dealt with. When admins are slacking - this is the place where you'll see the trouble.
- As for the site's current state of affairs, well - that has nothing to do with the admins, usually (with some exceptions). That is due to not enough people writing and too many people dealing with drama/maintenance/bullshit (and btw, SysRq, this remark is not directed to you...). So I can only say what I'm always saying at this point - WRITE. WRITE. WRITE. WRITE. Same goes to me as well really. ~ Mordillo where is my JAP? 22:36, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
- It'd be really nice if we could get a whole lot of new users, as well. If anyone has any ideas on how to get new people over here, it'd be nice to hear. Because... it's a little slow for the trickle of newbs. (That is to say, the good noobs.) --Mr. Monkey Pant-hoot here. 22:40, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
- I think I have spotted a few good newbs here and there. Perhaps more should be done than simply slapping a welcome template on their page. (That was more me thinking aloud as to my own actions, and nothing else.)
- I was also unaware that we had switched over to alternate day featuring. However, article featuring is an admin duty that should be automatic. It hasn't been, as far as I've seen, in the last few weeks, and that troubles me.
- Finally, I agree that people are spending too much time bitching about how much things suck by making forum topics and not enough time writing. As far as I'm concerned, there is only one thing to do: Delete Village Dump. Oh, and IRC. sirsysrq @ 22:47 Dec 1
- The problem, as I see it, is that Uncyclopedia is the worst! Carry on. Oh, and the admins are all flakes. Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 00:33, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
- Worst, and still the best! Wait, what? --The Acceptable Cainad (Fnord) 00:47, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
- We also need less Drama. And more Mooses. Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 00:59, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
- Also, to encourage the n00bs... Special:NewPages... Go there, find something created by a new user which is not total pants and EDIT IT. Some of you may have been here long enough to remember a user called "Mhaille". That's what he used to do... MrN Fork you! 01:13, Dec 2
- I concur with Mordillo: Modus is hell bent on dragging me down with him...--Sycamore (Talk) 12:03, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
- It's not just you. I'm dragging everyone down with me. Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 16:44, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
- No, I think there are a lot of people that wanna see you opped. sirsysrq @ 14:33 Dec 2
- I agree with Mordillo as well. There are plenty of people doing admin and maintenance work, and not enough doing writing. I'm as guilty as any, but plead the defence that maintenance is easier to do between bits of work in the office than writing, plus I'm not inspired because I'm working like a dog at the moment (fleas and all). But no, I don't think more admins are the answer, unless they get Led, Mhaille, Mordillo, Skull, TKF and the like writing more stuff again. --UU - natter 15:03, Dec 2
- The thing is, with my current schedule, stress, and dearth of ideas, I can't write again, and when all us admins don't write, someone else still needs too. However, all the promising new writers are busy counting to a million. --
- Patience, TKF. They'll get right back to writing when they're finished. sirsysrq @ 01:40 Dec 3
- Since when was anyone like me promising? I take offense to that, good sir. Colin ALL YOUR BASEHeaney! Casa Bey Superfly Portfolio 01:42, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
- Obviously, everyone should get back to writing except me, because I'm busy and good writing is hard. Now if you excuse me, I need to get back to expanding my VFD list, figuring out ways to make VFD go faster, and voting on each and every VFD nom.--Mnbvcxz 19:01, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
00:05, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
- I'm working on it, guys, I am. It's just that, for example, I just had three hockey practices in 2 days(4pm, 5am, and 3pm...ugh...), and am now about to pass out from exhaustion. It's not that I'm out of ideas, I'm just an interesting combination of really busy and very lazy. - P.M., WotM, & GUN, Sir Led Balloon (Tick Tock) (Contribs) 02:01, Dec 3
- The thing is, with my current schedule, stress, and dearth of ideas, I can't write again, and when all us admins don't write, someone else still needs too. However, all the promising new writers are busy counting to a million. --
- I agree with Mordillo as well. There are plenty of people doing admin and maintenance work, and not enough doing writing. I'm as guilty as any, but plead the defence that maintenance is easier to do between bits of work in the office than writing, plus I'm not inspired because I'm working like a dog at the moment (fleas and all). But no, I don't think more admins are the answer, unless they get Led, Mhaille, Mordillo, Skull, TKF and the like writing more stuff again. --UU - natter 15:03, Dec 2
- I concur with Mordillo: Modus is hell bent on dragging me down with him...--Sycamore (Talk) 12:03, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
- Also, to encourage the n00bs... Special:NewPages... Go there, find something created by a new user which is not total pants and EDIT IT. Some of you may have been here long enough to remember a user called "Mhaille". That's what he used to do... MrN Fork you! 01:13, Dec 2
- We also need less Drama. And more Mooses. Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 00:59, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
- Worst, and still the best! Wait, what? --The Acceptable Cainad (Fnord) 00:47, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
- The problem, as I see it, is that Uncyclopedia is the worst! Carry on. Oh, and the admins are all flakes. Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 00:33, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
- It'd be really nice if we could get a whole lot of new users, as well. If anyone has any ideas on how to get new people over here, it'd be nice to hear. Because... it's a little slow for the trickle of newbs. (That is to say, the good noobs.) --Mr. Monkey Pant-hoot here. 22:40, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
- Ill just say that the quality of articles has been going down steadily since EuroIpods and its ilk had become more commented than actual good articles. The fact they werent deleted outright, was terrible. We have a userbase now that encourages terrible articles. Ive been saying this for years now, this problem isnt going away till the admins act a bit more mature when it comes to following "How to be funny and not just stupid". UnNews is doing relatively well though--Nytrospawn 19:12, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah! It's awful when people other than me like fings dat I don't like! Boo other people! It's their fault that euroipods, fisher price and the like get featured all the time. Outrage! Sir Modusoperandi Boinc! 21:35, 5 December 2008 (UTC)