Talk:Napoleonic Wars

Anton: Please do not go into detail about Napoleon's invasion of Europe. One of the jokes of the article is that Napoleon invading most of Europe wasn't very important or impressive and no one really cared. Sir ScottPat (talk) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 20:11, May 10, 2013 (UTC)

I did not. I am concentrating on Russia right now. Anton (talk) 18:09, May 12, 2013 (UTC)

I am sorry for creating different sections without your permission! It is just that I had plenty of inspiration! Do you want to divide all the sections between us two like we did with Ukraine? Anton (talk) 18:54, May 12, 2013 (UTC)

My above comment was written before you ever wrote anything. It was a pre-warning to advise you on what you were going to write and was not an after-comment on what you wrote. It is fine to write in that section and what you have done so far is fine. the picture of Napoleon on the motorbike is genius. I really like it. Keep going! Sir ScottPat (talk) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 20:29, May 12, 2013 (UTC)

Napoleon's Character

Napoleon is now to be called Napoleon Sarkozy (relating to Nicolas Sarkozy - as he is short and seen as a dictator by the eyes of some French people.) Sir ScottPat (talk) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 07:22, May 13, 2013 (UTC)

Introduction

Is the intro fine? Any changes that need to be made? Sir ScottPat (talk) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 16:01, May 13, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I think it's very good. I don't think that any changes should be made unless you, yourself, think so. Anton (talk) 16:29, May 13, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Sir ScottPat (talk) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 17:38, May 13, 2013 (UTC)

French Revolution

More needs to be added here. Thanks. Sir ScottPat (talk) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 19:01, May 17, 2013 (UTC)

I will work on it tomorrow. Anton (talk) 19:14, May 17, 2013 (UTC)

Did they actually decapitate the man who made the guillotine? Wow! Sir ScottPat (talk) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 19:36, May 18, 2013 (UTC)

Well, before I always thought they did. But I looked it up on Wikipedia (see my first reference: "they thanked the wrong person") and it said that it is a common mistake which comes from the fact that someone called Guillotin (but not the inventor) was decapitated and at that time the real inventor actually had a different family name. Anton (talk) 19:39, May 18, 2013 (UTC)

Please don't change the article though as it is still quite funny even if false. Thanks. Sir ScottPat (talk) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 19:41, May 18, 2013 (UTC)

Please, see my first reference in the reference list. I have told the truth there. Anton (talk) 19:50, May 18, 2013 (UTC)

Ok good. I will work on it a bit more soon. The whole of next week is practically an exam on every day so I probably won't be able to do much until next weekend. Thanks. Sir ScottPat (talk) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 19:54, May 18, 2013 (UTC)

That's fine. My exams have passed about a month ago so I won't have a shortage of time. Anton (talk) 20:05, May 18, 2013 (UTC)

Lucky you! Sir ScottPat (talk) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 20:17, May 18, 2013 (UTC)

Yes. But we had two exams this year: one in December and one in April. Anton (talk) 07:32, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

Fair enough. I had exams last year and the year before that. Can we stop talking about exams please? Sir ScottPat (talk) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 09:26, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

If you don't like the topic, we can change it of course. I think we should make a connection between Napoleonic Wars and the French Revolution. Anton (talk) 09:29, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

As I say I am technically revising at the moment so I may write mor this afternoon but for now I can't. (You do know the link don't you?) Please add to it if you want. Thanks. Sir ScottPat (talk) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 09:39, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

The only link I see is that Napoleon has ended the reign of Terror after the revolution. Anton (talk) 09:47, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

Napoleon was a product of the revolution. Without the revolution there would be no Emperor Napoleon. The revolution allowed people from middle class families (bourgeois), such as him, to take high power positions. He showed off his military skill in the Italian Campaign was elected consule and then proclaimed himself Emperor. Perhaps one of the least cruel dictators ever, the people loved him and still do today and were fine with him becoming Emperor. Sir ScottPat (talk) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 10:03, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your explanation! I think I don't know that much about the French Revolution. Anton (talk) 10:06, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

That's ok. Any time. Sir ScottPat (talk) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 10:17, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

I am afraid I did not really call Napoleon => Napoleon Sarkozy. To solve this I have provided a link: Bonaparte => Sarkozy. Anton (talk) 13:02, May 22, 2013 (UTC)

Reminder

This is a reminder for me as much as it is for you, Anton. Remember we are writing about the wars Napoleon fought and not his own life story. I think I drifted off into that realm when I wrote a section in Napoleon comes to power but I will try to correct it so it fits in. Sir ScottPat (talk) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 07:03, May 25, 2013 (UTC)

Ok. I think all you did is very good and I am glad that we are advancing. I think we should finish this article before the PLS starts, as after we won't have much time.

Are there any particular sections you would like to do? Tell me what and I can do the rest. I don't mind what. Anton (talk) 16:49, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

I would like to do the Peninsular War, Waterloo and his Legacy. You may help on those if you wish. I have run out of humour for Napoleon's conquest of Europe please add more although make it fit in with the theme that Napoleon's conquest of Europe (apart from and before Russia) was unimportant and uneventful. Sir ScottPat (talk) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 16:52, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Sure. Anton (talk) 17:39, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

I have finished "The Egyptian Campaign". I can also end the "Napoleon comes to power" one if you don't know what to write there and the European Blockade. Anton (talk) 12:36, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

Please, please do what you like, no restrictions here. Thanks. Sir ScottPat (talk) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 18:51, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

Ok. Anton (talk) 05:38, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

Legacy

I think that I finished this section (which is now "Military legacy"). If you would like to add something else, please, do! Anton (talk) 19:30, August 18, 2013 (UTC)

Latest edits

Great work with Wellington! I find myself stuck and cannot add more than three sentences to a section anymore, and you keep on writing funny stuff! I found General's quote at Wikipedia and changed it (you are welcome to take a look at it, if you want) and I did this quickly, so was not able to do it correctly. Anton (talk) 18:12, October 9, 2013 (UTC)

May we change it more to make it sound more ridiculous. It seems too correct, true and factual at the moment with only a few small jokes. I mean the general could blame the defeat on the wine, the filthy English weather, the tendency for the Prussians to arrive when needed in battle precisely on time etc. Sir ScottPat (talk) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 18:25, October 9, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, but what is the second dessert? I changed a bit but my version does not make sense and I am not sure yours was exactly what you wanted. Are you learning French? Anton (talk) 16:40, October 11, 2013 (UTC)

I used to learn French but that was a long, long time ago. There were deliberate mis-spellings of French, the joke of course being that a. Uncyclopedia is a parody on Wikipedia and therefore spells translations wrong etc. and also b. the British are always ignorant of French spelling and spell how they want French to be spelt. In other words I did not look up the proper French words but attempted to recall from memory, therefore giving the joke that Uncyclopedia is an awful encyclopedia. The second desert is supposed to be Frog's legs but by your reaction I must be completely off. Sorry and thanks. Sir ScottPat (talk) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 17:20, October 11, 2013 (UTC)

Nope, that was the third plate (cuisses de grenouille). I was asking about the second one. It was cool as an idea and I am thinking about reverting myself but making sure that the reader understand the joke and does not think it is just a spelling error. Anton (talk) 11:44, October 12, 2013 (UTC)

"Le Chocolat Délicatesse Napoléon" was meant to be a really terrible way (deliberately) of saying "Napoleon's Chocolate Delicacy" in French. It is a made-up plate, it just sounds French to an English person. Sir ScottPat (talk) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 18:17, October 12, 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I get the joke. Now, I will do something about it. Anton (talk) 12:59, October 13, 2013 (UTC)

Anton, why are you still editing on my userpage version? Edit on the mainspace version please. Sir ScottPat (talk) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 13:04, October 13, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, sorry. Anton (talk) 13:07, October 13, 2013 (UTC)

I changed several sentences, because I think that "hiding" jokes is funnier than telling them openly. I changed the French delicacies' names: they are now "Napoleon's cake", "Delicate Chocolate Napoleon" and "Legs (not entire, but the upper part) with frogs". I think that will do the job. Anton (talk) 13:08, October 13, 2013 (UTC)

Diarrhoae and indigestion are almost the same though. Why change that? Sir ScottPat (talk) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 13:09, October 13, 2013 (UTC)

You guys are the best tag-team editors on the site! But are you done with the redirects from userspace to mainspace? Spıke Ѧ 13:10 13-Oct-13

Yes sorry. Also Anton I see your digestion point. Thanks. Great work! Sir ScottPat (talk) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 13:11, October 13, 2013 (UTC)

PS--Deliberate misspellings on a wiki are dicier than in a humor magazine, as they often induce "corrections" (as with Anton to mine on John Kerry, chronic misuser of French). Try to provide hints even to non-French speakers. Spıke Ѧ 13:13 13-Oct-13

Sure. I just want to look through the article for the last time, but you can nominate it. Anton (talk) 13:15, October 13, 2013 (UTC)

Hmm. Not sure whether to nom it now. Some sections are too factual and not funny enough in my opinion. I will read through it gradually over the course of the day and correct. Thanks for the advice Spike. Sir ScottPat (talk) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 13:17, October 13, 2013 (UTC)

Ok. Anton (talk) 13:35, October 13, 2013 (UTC)

Correcting Done

I shall nom this piece of work. Sir ScottPat (talk) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 14:19, October 13, 2013 (UTC)

Piece of WHAT?

ScottPat: Uncyclopedia section heading and page titles don't follow the usual rules on capitalizing names of titles--because Wikipedia doesn't--but when you cite supposed book titles (as you do in the footnotes), they should. Also, period and comma in the main text should come before the footnote and certainly not be separated from it by a space.

Anton199: When the main clause is in the past, the subordinate clause must also go into the past tense. "I think I will eat five" but "I thought I would eat five." "I tell you I am coming" but "I told you I was coming." Spıke Ѧ 01:15 14-Oct-13

Thanks Spike. Advice well taken. Sir ScottPat (talk) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 17:04, October 14, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Spike. Same. Anton (talk) 21:07, October 14, 2013 (UTC)

Sarkozy...

Will soon become less "popular" than Napoleon. And we don't call Napoleon Sarkozy throughout the whole article. So we might reconsider this aspect. Anton (talk) 09:56, October 16, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, just as the many Uncyclopedia articles whose basis is the flogging of George W. Bush have started drifting onto VFD. It is good for humor to be timeless. Of course, if there is something specific about Sarkozy's governance that can be made to relate directly to Napoleon (and Waterloo), that would be even better. Spıke Ѧ 10:20 16-Oct-13

I think the 'Napoleon Sarkozy' joke dates the article. I would just revert to Napoleon, possibly with a brief mention of where he came from and how he got to power. Strictly speaking, Napoleon didn't accquire political power until 1799 which he shared with others till 1804 when he became Emperor and therefore supreme. --RomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 16:44, October 16, 2013 (UTC)

Wow! Come on guys people in a hundred years will remember Sarkozy because he was a midget and needed to stand on a box when speaking, in the same way they will remember Bush for being an idiot. It is a common fact (although arguably disputable) that Napoleon was also very short. There, Spike, is your link between Sarkozy and Napoleon. Anton, I have specifically remembered to refer to Napoleon as Napoleon throughout article and not Bonaparte (bar one "Boney" joke that deserves to slip through) so there are no inconsistencies in my part of the article. Sir ScottPat (talk) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 17:19, October 16, 2013 (UTC)

PS - Romartus, thanks for the correction. I got the fact he became consulate and then Emperor and that is all that is needed. As Shabidoo said less facts, more humour! Sir ScottPat (talk) VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 17:22, October 16, 2013 (UTC)