Forum:Uncyclowikia irc
Alright, so I apparantly needed to take a vote on this or something. So, for those of you who don't know, I decided to create a more professional, helpful version of the original uncyclopedia IRC channel. Now, you may wonder, if there is already one, why another? Well, #uncyclopedia is highly fork controlled, and many wikia ideas are shot down. Not only that, but there's a lot of flooding and other stuff there, which would confuse the noobs. (Plus, since webclient doesn't throttle, idoru/chanserv/the servers would kill the user, and possibly IP block it from the network). Now, I had originally planned to make the channel after a forum like this, but due to recent events, I decided to make it before it could be sabotaged by... some unsavory people who have been stalking me around IRC. Also, this is not just some channel created by me to protest my banning from the fork channel. Simply, this is just a more wikia centric channel for us to use. So, to get to the point, I'll list down the features:
- . Its faster than Talkpage messages, ban patrol, qvfd, and forums many times, as I know from experience.
- . It will help us be more of a community, as when there aren't pressing issues of debate, our members can talk freely with each other, and this will strenghten bonds within our community. Plus, you'll get to know interesting stuff about other people.
- . (Coming Soon™(whenever I can get my damned IRC bot to work)) A live Recent changes feed. Since the expiramental live feed doesn't really work as far as I see, this would be the equivelant of it. Housed in a separate channel of course, as not to confuse the noobs.
- . IRC quotes. Many an article has been done based off of IRC sayings and musings, so yeah, this would be fun.
- . Denza. Need I say more?
Also, there has been concern that I have all IRC channel flags in the created channel. Don't worry, I will not abuse my power, I will simply give out the first ops to our admins. And autovoice to the rollbackers. So they can be identified for matters of rollbacking. Anyhow, to cut to the point. --{user:DungeonSiegeAddict510/sig3}} 16:03, October 14, 2013 (UTC)
- As PuppyOnTheRadio wrote at my talk page: "So, to summarise, you've created a chat room that nobody here asked for, without looking to get community consent, and given yourself higher authorisation access without any voting to grant that authority, and are now claiming ownership of it, and setting your own rules in regards to how it all works. Which begs the question - in what way is this going to increase the quality or quantity of our content here, or support the community as a whole?"
- This Forum does nothing to dispel the notion that you are not interested in writing funny pages but mostly in calling attention to yourself, mostly by setting yourself up as a power-broker. And regarding (4) above, if you think it will be "funny" to create Uncyclopedia articles based on something someone typed to you on IRC (probably by way of ridiculing them; that is how these articles usually go), they will in fact be as unfunny as the other article you created based on aspects of your ongoing childhood that purported to be of general interest.
- I cannot stop you from setting up any web facility, and it is clear that no one here nor even Wikia feels it owns the Uncyclopedia brand. If you try to grant yourself a monopoly, with or without a vague vote on the existence of a chat room, and especially hump participation there (necessarily at the expense of writing here)--that is, if your need to get other people to pay attention to you further draws them away from contributing to the content site--you will be an active obstacle to the work of the website. Spıke Ѧ 16:52 14-Oct-13
- I forgot to say that I'll resign all flags once a few admins have been opped there. Also, from experience, I can't get rid of my +F founder flag, but merely assign it to others. I won't make it a monopoly, etc etc. I just feel that we've become a bit loose as a community. Besides, 4. Denza. Need I say more? was a joke. In fact, I'll remove it. And it isn't mandatory to join and chat, so it won't be me drawing away attention. It can be diverted by will of the induvidual. So unless I somehow develop powers of mind control over IRC, (MCoIRCoIPv4/6), I can't be directly responsible for diverting attention. Sure, I made the room, but you have to choose to join. And I'm sorry to do this without a vote, but I did for the reasons stated above. -- 17:17, October 14, 2013 (UTC)
- And I will unremove it, because we don't alter the transcript, and the removed item is a key to the reason for this initiative: "Denza. Need I say more?" Spıke Ѧ 17:44 14-Oct-13
- joke[ jōk ]
- funny story: a story, anecdote, or wordplay that is intended to amuse
- cause of amusement: anything said or done to make people laugh
- something inadequate: somebody or something that is laughably inadequate or absurd
As I said, the last reason is a joke. I'm not doing this for myself, I'm doing this for the community. I already have a few channels to manage. The last thing I would want is more, but I'm doing this for the team. -- 19:00, October 14, 2013 (UTC)
Vote: ##uncyclopedia
Boner. -- 16:03, October 14, 2013 (UTC)
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For. Not that I'd use it much but it is needed and I would perhaps use it now and again. On the conditions that Denza does not run it of course. But don't shoot this idea down just because Denza suggested it. I think it will provide quick resolutions to problems without refreshing pages. Perhaps make it only accesible to Uncyclopedia Users and not IPs? Sir ScottPat (talk) 
VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 17:32, October 14, 2013 (UTC)
Comment. Hmm, best I could do is ban webclients, or such. But I'll see what I can do. -- 18:57, October 14, 2013 (UTC)
No fucking way. I've always been uncomfortable with on-wiki discussion being held off-wiki where there is no record of the discussion being held, no minutes taken, and the decisions made there being held as “binding” when only a subset of the community have been informed that a decision is being held. This is what has lead to a single community being split into two previously. I also have no faith in the motivation for the creation of this channel, given that it's being created by someone who has been banned from a similar channel elsewhere, which leads me to believe it's being created in poor faith. The justification of “I didn't want someone else to do it” when the name is not that special - there are plenty of ways this could have been done that could have avoided it being sniped. The fact that a self-aggrandising, power hungry but otherwise unfruitful member of the community is going to be there in any position of power does not make it a draw card. There is an ability to create a separate online identity with a new email address, and using that identity to create the channel - meaning the creator could hand that password over to another party and give up all ownership. This would have removed any concern over ownership while still securing a name that is not that special. Given the channel's creator's actions at other channels, and behaviour at similar wikis, along with his behaviour here, with yet another huge justification for what appears to be acting in bad faith, I see no reason why this should be supported.
- Of course, if the vote was put forward with no “look at me” justification, and was simply the question as to wether we need a dedicated chat channel, my response would have been different. I would still have voted against, but I wouldn't have viewed the instigation of it as a vain power grab by an embittered child. • Puppy's talk page • 09:09 14 Oct 2013
- Basically everything puppy said. I wouldn't have worded it so harsh as SPIKE though this one time I think his brutal tone is fair...and Puppy's out of character wrath is telling. Dude...you gotta knock it off with the hyper-active antics and achieve things. Write. Clean up stuff. Patroll. Pee review. The boring stuff no one gets thanked for but needs to be done. IRC is 95% a waste of time. --ShabiDOO 21:47, October 14, 2013 (UTC)
- Against. Persuaded to vote against. Sir ScottPat (talk)
VFH UnS NotM WotM WotY 21:49, October 14, 2013 (UTC) - Against. Anyone calling this place 'Uncyclowikia'. Regards the IRC channel, should really be only a place for people to ask questions or seek clarifications on what is happening on Uncyclopedia. If Denza wants an IRC channel, it can be Denza's IRC but not under the name of Uncyclopedia. --
RomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 06:55, October 15, 2013 (UTC) - For. Then where will the Uncyclopedia channel be? Anton (talk) 07:49, October 15, 2013 (UTC)
Allright
Since my point hasn't been clear enough before, let me say it again. I AM NOT DOING A POWER GRAB. I AM NOT DOING THIS TO SELF PROMOTE. I AM NOT DOING THIS FOR MYSELF. I want to take the best aspects of #uncyclopedia, and incorporate those in. BUT FINE! I'll take it down if you think I'm going to be some power hungry maniac. I SAY ONE JOKE POINT, ONE, AND THE WHOLE FUCKING WORLD ENDS. -- 03:20, October 15, 2013 (UTC)
And now folks...check it out...
So I googled funny IRC moments...and this was my favourite example. I doubt its true...but its funny:
#349567 +(15821)- [X] Rabidplaybunny87: Okay, so my neighbors officially hate me GarbageStan23: why? Rabidplaybunny87: Well, me, david and andrew were having a bonfire in the backyard, and we were making s'mores and all... and suddenly we here sirens, and see a firetruck turn into the street in front of us. Rabidplaybunny87: So we all went running to see what was up, and our neigbor's house was on fire! GarbageStan23: oh shit! Rabidplaybunny87: Yeah, and when we got there, the wife was crying into her husbands arms, and we were just kinda standing there, and then she saw us, and then like for 10 seconds, gave us the dirtiest look ever Rabidplaybunny87: Turns out, we were still holding our sticks with marshmallows on it, watching the fire.... Rabidplaybunny87: talk about bad timing...
--ShabiDOO 04:32, October 15, 2013 (UTC)
I was hasty
Yes, I admit it. (You should feel lucky, for tis a rare sight to see Denza admitting defeat) I should have consulted the community first, and such. I know I've been patrolling far less and not doing the writing I was supposed to. I've been pressed for time, and I've become somewhat bored with the rat race. So, now that thats out of the way, 2 things.
- . I could just register #uncyc-wikia, then hand over all flags to simsilikesims, as to prevent me monopolizing and such, or surrender my flags to Sims. I still have the first 2/3 points from the top to back me up. So at least consider it.
- . I'll resume my patrolling and such starting soon. -- 15:34, October 15, 2013 (UTC)