Talk:Cossacks
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A book called "Taras Bulba" by Nikolai Gogol is studied in all the Russian schools. Certain passages tell very well who real Cossacks are and what jokes can be made on them. When I find a translation of this novel (into English) on the Interent, I will tell you more. Anton (talk) 20:07, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you. Speaking of Russian learnt novels I hear Don Quijote is a popular book in Russia and I thought that an Uncyclopedia article must be done on the Don. Sir ScottPat (talk) 20:24, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
- Oh there is an article on him already. Maybe I can improve it another time but for now, to work on the Cossacks. Any plans for the article as such? Sir ScottPat (talk) 20:25, June 15, 2013 (UTC)
I have several ideas but they have to be organized. Do you know anything about the Cossacks? Anton (talk) 08:38, June 16, 2013 (UTC) Look, here is a link to the English version: [1]. The seventh page is where the book begins. You don't have to read it all (although it is actually a good novel) and you do not have to read it at all. But I will sometimes post a paragraph or two from it on this talk page if I consider them helpful. Anton (talk) 14:49, June 16, 2013 (UTC)
Section division[edit]
If you want we can divide section between us as we did for Ukraine and as we are doing for Napoleonic Wars. Do you want to do any particular ones? I will be working on history and tradition but won't do everything, so you can add whatever you want there. Anton (talk) 14:52, June 16, 2013 (UTC)
- I will attempt to write some sections tomorrow. All I know about Cossacks as they made very good light cavalry, who not only harrased Napoleon on his retreat but also pilaged and raped the Russian villages as well. They are nomads from Siberia who civilised Russians dislike. Not sure whether these facts are true or just stereotypical but that is what I know. Sir ScottPat (talk) 16:53, June 16, 2013 (UTC)
I have to say that it it all true. This is enough info to write half of this article and I will do the other half.
Some additional information you may need: even Russians, when they think of Cossacks, imagine a mad man on a horse with a saber above his head. Cossacks were not only light cavalery in the army: sometimes they raped Russian villages, as you said, even during the times of peace. They lived in different places in Russia and Ukraine, sometimes had their own camps or villages, sometimes served the government and sometimes did not serve anyone. The Dnieper Cossacks were completely different fronm the Don Cossacks, etc, etc. Ambiguous people, aren't they? But the sure thing about them is that they were good at fighting and horse-riding and probably had a strong sense of honor and betrayal. Anton (talk) 08:20, June 17, 2013 (UTC)
Well done with the characterization! I think this section should be reunited with origins! Anton (talk) 15:13, June 17, 2013 (UTC)
Some information for the section[edit]
"But the first man they encountered was a Zaporozhetz who was sleeping in the very middle of the road with legs and arms outstretched". Knowing that this was a Cossack (on the sixth or the seventh page they explain what does the word 'Zaporozhetz' or 'Zaporozhets' mean), a good joke can be made. Do you want to write about this because you put the picture of a Zaporozhets to the 'Ukraine' article? His way of sleeping is also funny. Anton (talk) 16:37, June 19, 2013 (UTC)
Finishing for the PLS[edit]
- I like the subdivisions part very much! The joke about the Don river is very good! Are we finished? Anton (talk) 14:22, June 23, 2013 (UTC)
- P.S. I really like the way you interpret the geographic names. Anton (talk) 14:24, June 23, 2013 (UTC)
- It's not actually a deliberate joke on the Don river. Don in English is slang for a guy who is the best at doing something. (In Spanish it refers to "Duke"). The Don river as far as I am aware is in North-East Scotland and runs next to the Dee river however you may be refering to a different river. Thanks. Sir ScottPat (talk) 14:39, June 23, 2013 (UTC)
- Well, there is a river which passes through Russia. And the Don Cossacks are those who live next to it. That's why the section was even funnier than you probably expected. Anton (talk) 14:46, June 23, 2013 (UTC)
That's basically what I just said. And if you look at the beginning of this talk page, it was me who mentioned the Don Cossacks first. Settlements is funny. Are we finished? Anton (talk) 14:56, June 23, 2013 (UTC)
- Ahh...so you did, my apolagies. Yes, I am finished. just links required and maybe a few more images. (Of course remember we cannot mainspace until after competition). Thanks. Sir ScottPat (talk) 15:00, June 23, 2013 (UTC)
- I must also congratulate you in your fine work on this article. I enjoy reading a lot and consider it up to a great standard. Definitely up to the standard of the Ukraine article. We must continue with our collabs. as they work so well. Thank you for your work on this article. Sir ScottPat (talk) 15:05, June 23, 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, we should. But before we create something new, we need to finish Napoleonic Wars. Anton (talk) 15:31, June 23, 2013 (UTC)
Cossacks spotted in the Crimea 2014[edit]
The Cossacks are awake again! Run for your lives! But seriously, someone should put this into the article when it can be edited again. There are even photos of them, but I can't get the link to work in the talk page. Saw it on Facebook on Al Jazeera America. The Cossacks are in full military Cossack uniforms and are supporting the Russians. 75.105.48.15 16:24, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
- I have added an image. --RomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 17:00, March 7, 2014 (UTC)
- Nice pic. I figured out how to get the link to work. Cossacks in the Crimea That Cossack looks so badass. 75.105.48.15 17:50, March 7, 2014 (UTC)