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Kind of an American-centered question, but should Letterman have apologized to Palin? Bringing you up to speed, Letterman made fun of Palin and her daughter Bristol, the slutty one, who had been at a baseball game. "Interesting development, in the 7th inning, Palin's daughter was knocked up by Alex Rodriguez." After a LOT of arguing, Letterman apologized to Palin. Palin, while accepting his apology, kind of bitch slapped him at the same time. Was Letterman's joke funny in the first place? Would apologizing lead to more conservatives demanding that liberals stop making jokes? Just an open question to the Uncyc crowd.   Le Cejak • <20:29 Jun 16, 2009>

I say no, i just despise palin, so i am kinda biased. ^{Pirate Lord}__Sonic80 (Yell  •  Latest literary excretion) __ 20:55, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

The joke wasn't all that funny, but was somewhat humorous. I lult a bit. And who really cares if conservatives demand apologies for things? It will only bring out the idiots in the world who can't take a joke, and make them look ridiculous in front of everyone else. Colin ALL YOUR BASEHeaney! Casa Bey Superfly Portfolio 21:15, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Here on Zerb IV, the political machine hunts and violently recycles those of the comedy caste, so no matter how it works on Earth, count yourselves lucky. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 21:16, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

The problem was really that Letterman got it wrong on which of Palin's daughters was there. He thought Bristol (the 18 year-old with the baby) was there, but it was actually her 14-year old daughter that was there. I think that sometimes we kind of forget that people in the media are just real people. If it were me, I would probably want to stand up for, and protect, my daughter, regardless of age. The joke wasn't all that great in the first place, really. But I like Dave. I'm not going to say that he was wrong. It was an honest mistake, and Palin used it to get herself back in the news. Whether or not he should have appologised, I understand that he probably felt bad for the whole squabble. But, at the same time, I would hope that Dave puts it behind him in the same way that he put Paris Hilton no-showing for one show behind him: Get a little pissed, and continue making jokes about it. I find that he does some of his best jokes when in that mode. Woody On Fire! Talking Woody Stalking Woody 21:24, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

And also, he apologized. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 21:34, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Dexter's take

First off, he was clearly joking. Secondly, he apologized the next day - before Palin went on a media rampage demanding an apology - but Sarah Palin and the right-wing media didn't seem to catch it. Thirdly, instead of just being an angry mother, Sarah Palin tried to turn it into a whole sexism issue. Fourthly, who cares?! David Letterman is good for laughs in between commercials of whatever is on [adult swim] and shouldn't be taken seriously when he's clearly cracking jokes. MegaPleb • Dexter111344 • Complain here 21:34, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Really, should a late-night talk show host be taken seriously at all? As he said, it was to get cheap laughs, which is his job. Colin ALL YOUR BASEHeaney! Casa Bey Superfly Portfolio 21:35, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Exactly. MegaPleb • Dexter111344 • Complain here 21:36, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Right-wing media? Where have you been? —Unführer Guildy Ritter von Guildensternenstein 02:11, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Fox News and Conservapedia. MegaPleb • Dexter111344 • Complain here 02:26, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Fox News is entertaining! But sometimes I worry that the two journalists who work there must get really lonely. Just watch CNN 02:57, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Conservatives: Fox News and Conservapedia (which isn't even taken seriously). Liberals: Everything else. —Unführer Guildy Ritter von Guildensternenstein 05:35, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes. And no one listens to Limbaugh, either... Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 05:48, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

The liberal media is a conservative fantasy designed to sell more books with dust jackets made from surplus army uniforms and sown together with the uncried tears of aborted foetuses, with titles including words like "Freedom" and "Falwell" and photographs of Sean Hannity's reassuringly flat head. There's nothing like a good "Us v Them", eh comrades mutual benefit free-market capitalists? Also, next time someone makes a forum topic like this, can we call it "First person to compare X to Hitler wins"? IronLung 09:54, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Your lengthy paragraph, which as is my custom I did not read, brings to mind only one question, "Why do you hate America?" Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 10:00, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

The same reason I hate Denny's, Modus: because you're not there! IronLung 11:26, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

I heard they kicked you out of Denny's, just like Hitler. Do I win? -OptyC Sucks! CUN20:41, 17 Jun

You won the internets! IronLung 21:46, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

First of all, I agree with basically everything that's been said. I do NOT think he should've apologized, because frankly, it doesn't seem very sexist to me. It's not like L's joke was hilarious but don't throw the conservative media a bone. They'll just ask all comedians to rescind liberal jokes from now on.   Le Cejak • <17:05 Jun 17, 2009>

Mnbvcxz's take

Hyperbole did worse. :) --Mn-z 06:39, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Now that's someone who deserves his own late-night talk show. :D Colin ALL YOUR BASEHeaney! Casa Bey Superfly Portfolio 20:23, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

And on a related note, our article on Trig Palin isn't that civil either. --Mn-z 18:07, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

"What is the funniest thing in the world? The fact that this kid is so retarded!" HAHAHA! What's not civil about that (since it's the only thing on the page that makes me laugh)? MegaPleb • Dexter111344 • Complain here 18:12, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Heh

lol @ liberalism vs conservatism debate. Enjoy turning each other into caricatures of your respective political leanings and making no progress. - T.L.B. WotM, UotM, FPrize, AotM, ANotM, PLS, UN:HS, GUN 17:45, Jun 17

I do enjoy it, verily so. :D Colin ALL YOUR BASEHeaney! Casa Bey Superfly Portfolio 18:06, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

I hope you feel real special, using your big words while you look down your nose at the rest of us. You must be a liberal, destroying America with your liberalist liberality. Why don't you go enjoy your drugs and your premarital sex? Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 20:07, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Way to just assume he's on the drugs. You conservatives are all the same with your "enjoy your drugs" and your "abortion is murder" and your "why should black people be allowed to vote?". I hope your feeling real proud of yourself. If you were any more conservative you'd be a...umm... something that's real conservative. -OptyC Sucks! CUN20:15, 17 Jun

Oh-o say can you see! By the don-zerly light! Bombs burning in air! What-so something something, something flag was still there! Oh-kay does the bar stangled daaa-aaner still waay-ay-ay-ave...and the hooooooome! Of the! Braaaave! Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 20:20, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

I think you mean: Oh Canada, my home and native land...somethingsomethingsomethingsomethingsomethingsomething...OH CANADA, WE STAND ON GUARD FOR THEEEEEEEE! - T.L.B. WotM, UotM, FPrize, AotM, ANotM, PLS, UN:HS, GUN 19:01, Jun 18

What the heck kind of crappy national anthem is that? Mexican? You one of them illegal immigrants? Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 19:23, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Hmm yeah I am a liberal, but not in the way that Americans seem to understand. I think that word might have developed some sort of special meaning in that country along the lines of "dickhead". IronLung 21:45, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Huh. I totally had you pegged as a dickhead. I guess we're all wrong every now and then. Woody On Fire! Talking Woody Stalking Woody 19:06, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Hah. I totally had you pegged as a guy who would give head, Dick. I guess we're all wrong every now and then. MegaPleb • Dexter111344 • Complain here 19:13, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Socky's take

He shouldn't have made a joke about her daughter, he should have just directly insulted Palin. Who cares if her daughter is a whore? —Sir Socky (talk) (stalk) GUN SotM UotM PMotM UotY PotM WotM 21:35, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Wasn't it Benjamin Franklin who said "Those who are willing to sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither freedom nor Sarah Palin's daughter is a whore."?   Le Cejak • <22:21 Jun 17, 2009>

No. Back then, comedians/Founding Fathers had to work around such subjects, rather than openly talk about them. As such, I believe that this fell under Franklin's well-known line of jokes, "She reminds of this girl that I knew in France...". Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 02:34, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Blame Leddy.

Cause he's only 16. Or has his birthday pasted, yet? Either way, Leddy is a fag nigga. Like Frankie. MegaPleb • Dexter111344 • Complain here 22:40, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Crock of Crap

Of course David Letterman should not have had to apologize. And I believe that he probably did so after being pressured by his corporate bosses, who in turn were getting heat from Palin and her conservative idiot fans. Sensing where the wind was blowing, I mocked that whole tempest in a teapot with this article: UnNews:Letterman arrested for rape

My point in it was only that Palin was making a big stink for little more reason than being able to be in the news spotlight again. That dim bulb loser (and I speak as a former resident of Alaska) was bounced up far beyond her ability through the powers that be deciding that McCain was not to win. McCain new this, everyone else recognized it, only Palin thinks that she has some kind of insight and intelligence needful to be in the top rank of our nation's leadership.

Like the scamming real estate contractors in "The Fountainhead" who picked Howard Roark to deliberately fail, so was Palin picked to deliberately fail. The dumb bunny still doesn't know this obvious fact.

As a Christian Anarchist, I usually deliberately refrain from following elections, but it was hard not to be concerned over the cataclysimically low intelligence of Palin. Hell, she made George W. look erudite. Heck, it was almost tempting to vote, but it was too obvious that the fix for Obama was already in for me to truly worry.

I resent her for forcing poor Letterman - who has enough problems in this time slot - to apologize for making a routine joke about an issue that was well known. The woman has a slut for a daughter, and should worry more about that than what David may be saying.

--Clemens177 01:44, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

You lost me at "The Fountainhead". Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 02:35, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

If you would not like something to suceed, and had the power, you would pick someone that you knew - or thought you knew - was incompetent. That's what some developers did in that book, though it turned out they were wrong about him. And that's what the GOP did with Palin, and boy howdy were they right. --Clemens177 02:46, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

So what you're telling me is that politicians tried to not be in power.

On a Randian note, an actual quote from an actual character in the actual The Fountainhead, by the greatest and specialest and smartest and strongest author ever, Ayn Rand;

"You're special, Howard Roark. You're special and you're strong and people hate you for that. People hate you because you're special and smart and they want you to fail. They want you to fail because they're dumb and average and dull and they're jealous of how special and smart and strong and special you are and they want you to fail, Howard Roark, because you're special and..."

Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 03:01, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm confused about Modus's opinion: he hasn't really stated it.   Le Cejak • <3:33 Jun 18, 2009>

In case anyone cares, I'm pro-sociopath and I'm definitely in favor of Republican brain washing.   Le Cejak • <5:13 Jun 18, 2009>

On a related note, Mozart was a red --Mn-z 05:17, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey folks, sorry to be the guy who gives it away, but the Republicans and Democrats are pretty much the same. You pay more taxes and have less freedom for socialism or fascism, but you pay more taxes and have less freedom all the same. Georgie boy was way over the top fascistic, so to balance things we needed a dippy socialist - that he was a minority was a twofer. Having McCain pick Palin was an easy choice for the GOP, not for wishing to be in the 21st century, but wishing to look pro-woman when they knew that they'd never win.

Had the GOP been trying, they'd have had some other republican, and not paired that one with a dipshit hockey mom who sounds like a refugee from "Fargo" with a prefontal lobotomy and thorazine habit. -- Clemens177 08:50, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

You do realize that the last half of that last sentence describes, in exquisite detail, at least a quarter of the US population? Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 13:04, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

You know, I live in Fargo. -OptyC Sucks! CUN14:11, 18 Jun

Hardly. You didn't even add "doncha know" on the end there, doncha know. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 14:31, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

That stupid movie is the bane of the collective existence of Fargo residents. Doncha know. -OptyC Sucks! CUN14:42, 18 Jun

Did you enter your duck painting in the national duck painting "Duck Painting" competition? Me n' Elly 've already entered our entry. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . dontcha know   Le Cejak • <14:45 Jun 18, 2009>

No, we're more into wolves around here. Doncha know? -OptyC Sucks! CUN14:49, 18 Jun

McCain won the nomination because he we was "more or less tolerable" to the largest section of the party. Also, he was the darling of the mainstream media in 2008. Giuliani was far too liberal to win, and Romney was a former-liberal flip-flopper. Or in the words of Huckabee, he "didn't hit political puberty in the conservative ranks until 60 years old." Thompson was even more elderly (in behavior, if not in years) and tired than McCain, and he was probably just there to divide the conservative vote. Huckabee came across as too conservative/redneck for the eastern establishment.

And, at one point, McCain was ahead of Obama in the polls before the recession hit. And, the election was not a landslide (52.9 to 45.7). All things considered, McCain actually did quite well, and in hind site, any Republican would have lost. Its probably better for the conservatives that the GOP nominated a moderate in that election, so the failure can't be blamed on the candidate being too far to the right. --Mn-z 16:36, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

And the election was still close even after eight years of incompetently malevolent kleptocracy (and another twenty years of dismantling and privatizing the State, thanks to the Reagan revolution, followed by Bush Sr's "Li'l Reaganism" and Clinton's "New Democrats"). Economic conservatives, I don't mind, it's the NeoCons, moral conservatives and corporatists (yes, including a bunch of the Democrats) that rub my craw the wrong way. If there's one thing I hate, it's an incorrectly rubbed craw.

Also, watching the McCain of pre-2000 turn into the McCain of 2008 made me sad (almost as much as watching Powell pitch the "evidence" during the runup to the war). Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 16:50, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

It's been proven the USA doesn't need a government to function. I say this because after President James Garfield was shot in 1881, the nation went a full two months without a President (as James Garfield was bed-ridden and couldn't do anything; then the bastard died, anyway), the Supreme Court, or Congress (The Supreme Court and Congress were all out on vacation - the lazy bastards.). The Vice President was out hunting the whole time. But hey, the nation functioned just fine. Who says it everything would collapse if we were to just overthrow the government today?! ANARCHISM FOR THE WIN!!! No? Nobody? Come on! It'd be fun! We have candy! Fine, I'll shut up... Since nobody wants to overthrow the government with me.... MegaPleb • Dexter111344 • Complain here 17:18, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

First of all, Garfield was a shill for Big Lasagna. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 17:21, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

I heard the promises of candy were unfounded. Woody On Fire! Talking Woody Stalking Woody 17:25, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

McCain was always a moderate-conservative. The only difference was that McCain was the darling of the mainstream media in 2000, as he was attacking the anointed Republican candidate from the left. --Mn-z 17:37, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

I really liked McCain in 2000, I just think he sold out a little bit in 2008 to win the Republican primaries. Woody On Fire! Talking Woody Stalking Woody 17:45, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

"A little bit" is a delightful understatement. For 2008 he hired the same campaign-managing, muck-raking, rumour-seeding thugs who savaged him in 2000 (remember his "brown baby"?). In 2000 he was a Mod and a maverick. By 2008 he was whatever his audience at the time was and a maverick in name only. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 17:48, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, when you put it that way.... He was pretty awesome in 2000 though. I'll always lean on that. Woody On Fire! Talking Woody Stalking Woody 17:52, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Starting off well and ending poorly makes him roughly the equivalent of Death to Smoochy (or, if you want a more accurate but nerdier comparison, Neon Genesis Evangelion). Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 17:57, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

I think its more those in the center and on the center-left thought that McCain was more moderate than he actually was. His senate seat was previously occupied by Barry Goldwater. Any change is more political posturing than anything else. The only difference was that in 2008, he needed to present himself as acceptable to the right. And, in 2000, it was in his best interest to try to be as "civil" as possible, less so in 2008. And the mainstream media was on his side in 2000. --Mn-z 18:02, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

From a career as a Mod maverick to a desperate vote-whore is a fall, I'd say (not to mention, say, walking in with an anti-torture bill, walking out with a torture bill and calling it a victory...). Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 19:29, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Or maybe it's just that I find the two of us similar in the start off strong, end poorly respect. Woody On Fire! Talking Woody Stalking Woody 18:10, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Woody was better before he went commercial. Oh, and a presidency by McCain would be WAY worse than under Obama. McCain would've stepped up the war in Iraq plus bailed out the banks (same as O), but would've cut taxes by a further $300 billion to pay for it. Republicans are not very good planners.   Le Cejak • <18:20 Jun 18, 2009>

But the $300 billion tax cut would be for the upper 5%! If they get to keep more of their money, EVERYBODY WINS!! Plus, he would be pushing for more nuclear plants while not allowing the resulting nuclear waste to be stored in his state because it's dangerous. MegaPleb • Dexter111344 • Complain here 18:26, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, fucking rich people! What, with owning the companies that employ everyone and stimulate economic growth, and whatnot. —Unführer Guildy Ritter von Guildensternenstein 21:29, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

I know, right?! If anything, rich people should pay less tax than poor people, since they never use the State programs that taxes pay for. Poor people are freeloading off the backs of the rich, I tell you! Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 22:16, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

And people actually wonder why I'm an anarchist? --Clemens177 18:43, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

It's because you're small and mad at the world about it. You've got a tiny little chip on your delicate little shoulder. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 19:01, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Awww, mom! You said you weren't going to be in the groups I'm in! --Clemens177 19:23, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Mothers know when their children get out of hand, Pookums. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 19:26, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Haha. You're mother cares. MegaPleb • Dexter111344 • Complain here

"You are" mother cares? Don't make me call the grammar police. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 20:10, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Mind you, sir, "You're mother cares." is a grammatically correct sentence, "mother cares" referring to the "cares" related to the occupation of taking care of one's mother. The sentence consequently means something like "Your sole existence equals your taking care of your mother." The Grammar police 21:50, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

You're not a real cop! You forgot to say "All roit. Wus-all-this, then?" Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 00:33, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

My dear sir, that would be against everything I believe in. The Grammar police 07:42, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Liberals and Conservatives both suck.

That's why I'm voting Brada-MO in the next election. -OptyC Sucks! CUN19:31, 18 Jun

Brada-MO will neuter the fat cats up at the Capitol! Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 20:09, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

And then huff them from here to eternity! • • • Necropaxx (T) {~} 00:11, Jun 20

Damn straight. What are we talking about?--<<>> 03:12, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

David Letterman isn't funny. Ever.

Somebody else probably said that, but I didn't bother to read past Cajek's paragraph. -RAHB 04:49, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

This is the most insightful, though provoking response to a topic I've ever seen

...And I hate hate hat all you fuckers for ruining my buzz. ...bastards the lot of you... "Fountainhead" for fucks sake! I hope you all get some suicide sick! Fuck!  ~ Avast Matey!!! Happytimes are here!*  (talk) (stalk) Π   ~  ~  05 Feb 2010 ~ 05:24 (UTC)

I should point out that this forum took place in an idealized past that never took place. Sir Modusoperandi ^Boinc! 11:50, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

That's some pro necro right there. -OptyC Sucks! CUN00:48, 11 Feb

and... All the while slowly but surely the Europeans gain more and more power... HeHe... Um. Hang on, Europeans? WTF? MrN  Fork you! 01:00, Feb 11