UnNews talk:Vegas hosts Abu Ghraib 10th anniversary reunion
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to waterboard the red link and turn it blue Aleister 00:48 19/11/'13
- I get the point but the use of these images in a comedy article is a bit grim in my view. Any chance we can think of 'funnier' ideas to illustrate it? Like a Lego version of that main photo for example? --RomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 11:08, November 20, 2013 (UTC)
- Nah, think of the children. (literally?) Yes, literally. The children's right to free speech has to be protected, and the pictures were the purpose and foundation of the story. Now when I read it out loud it makes me laugh, I'll do some more polishing. But those two pics are historical records of a very serious incident in world history. And I swear on me ole mother's bones that I did not know it was exactly the 10th anniversary of when these events were occurring! When I found that out it was like, okay, cool, so not only did the idea work as a concept but it fit the timeline. And the main word which I would hope we include with the word comedy is 'satire', which is almost a whole other creature entirely. The two have to marry when satire is involved, but comedy can stand alone. I think that since Sarah Silverman looks enough like Lindy English (sp?) to play her in a reenactment was another bonus of the pictures. So, anyway, I'd like to keep them because that started out as the whole idea of the article - not to let Wikia censor historically important photographs, but it turned into a pretty good mixing of about a dozen concepts at a rough estimate, and the pictures work into those very well. So my vote would be to keep them. On the other site's talk page Leverage left a photochop of Silverman's face on English's body in yet another picture - a blurry one of the guy being forced to masturbate while Silverman laughs and points at him (on Wikipedia they don't blur it, but use the picture as is. Can we use that one too?). Aleister 13:42 20/11/13
- I know they are on Wikipedia but I find it hard to 'laugh' when I see torture images used here. Having googled my own suggestion, you can use lego versions which are at least a step away from the real experience. Just smacks of ED to me. I see you have the same story over at the Fork. --RomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 16:28, November 20, 2013 (UTC)
- I would agree about the image of the man laying on the floor - the pity for the man gets in the way of the humor. At least with the picture of the inmates piled up in awkward positions you cannot see their faces. I would also agree that the lego version would be a bit lighter. -- Simsilikesims(♀GUN) Talk here. 20:28, November 20, 2013 (UTC)
- Political satire is fine here, I thought. Changing to unreal images would take all the air out of the page. The woman in the reenactments is clearly identified as comedian Sarah Siverman. How about if I call the guy on the bottom a ...no, it can be Joey No-Thumbs who interceded to play the part! That works very well, and I'll change that now. Check it out in a few minutes to see if that's better. Aleister 21:02 201113
- I would agree about the image of the man laying on the floor - the pity for the man gets in the way of the humor. At least with the picture of the inmates piled up in awkward positions you cannot see their faces. I would also agree that the lego version would be a bit lighter. -- Simsilikesims(♀GUN) Talk here. 20:28, November 20, 2013 (UTC)
- I know they are on Wikipedia but I find it hard to 'laugh' when I see torture images used here. Having googled my own suggestion, you can use lego versions which are at least a step away from the real experience. Just smacks of ED to me. I see you have the same story over at the Fork. --RomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 16:28, November 20, 2013 (UTC)
- Nah, think of the children. (literally?) Yes, literally. The children's right to free speech has to be protected, and the pictures were the purpose and foundation of the story. Now when I read it out loud it makes me laugh, I'll do some more polishing. But those two pics are historical records of a very serious incident in world history. And I swear on me ole mother's bones that I did not know it was exactly the 10th anniversary of when these events were occurring! When I found that out it was like, okay, cool, so not only did the idea work as a concept but it fit the timeline. And the main word which I would hope we include with the word comedy is 'satire', which is almost a whole other creature entirely. The two have to marry when satire is involved, but comedy can stand alone. I think that since Sarah Silverman looks enough like Lindy English (sp?) to play her in a reenactment was another bonus of the pictures. So, anyway, I'd like to keep them because that started out as the whole idea of the article - not to let Wikia censor historically important photographs, but it turned into a pretty good mixing of about a dozen concepts at a rough estimate, and the pictures work into those very well. So my vote would be to keep them. On the other site's talk page Leverage left a photochop of Silverman's face on English's body in yet another picture - a blurry one of the guy being forced to masturbate while Silverman laughs and points at him (on Wikipedia they don't blur it, but use the picture as is. Can we use that one too?). Aleister 13:42 20/11/13